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  • BTAutoMag
    AO's Problem Child
    • Oct 2001
    • 7199

    #61
    this is just getting better and better. he still has the item and can take a timestamped picture. worth has been proven at more then he listed so therefore he is still in the right and no mods should be involved

    I just read " in case, moral and something else besides rules ..".


    You cannot have rules on this site and and allow things to happen on the side.

    Making excuses, or adjustments on the fly is wrong. And item is not sold. I had higher offer therefore his is no longer the higher offer.

    Item is still in my position. And has not been sold. The higher value price I was offered showed me my item was for sale at a DIRT price. So I Was not gonna sell it anymore for $25. Therefore I removed it from my thread. I can send pix with timestamps days from now with item still in position. I'm pointing it out its wrong for you guys to adjust ANYTHING.

    It's a transaction nonetheless and both party's are aloud to share .. How am I wrong? Deal is between him and I as u keep pointing out now. So I'd appreciate it if you stopped removing my feedback for others
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    • skipdogg
      OG & HNIC
      • Nov 2000
      • 1392

      #62
      OOOHHH now he's called the mods pigs. Come on John... BAN HIS A$$!!!!!
      OLD AO FEEDBACK

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      • BTAutoMag
        AO's Problem Child
        • Oct 2001
        • 7199

        #63
        ~put fingers in ears to muffle mod explosion~

        seriously he posted this publicly...


        And I would now like to add they blocked me from leaving feedback on a "transaction"

        They are not following or backing up the rules. I am getting answers that are not within the rules so I am unsure how this site is ran. This is my first incounter with mods on here and if they dont know the rules then I feel it is not safe to do any more business on this site.

        Seeing how I can not leave because I have current sales in the mail and NEED to stay contact I will not say what needs to be said HOW it needs to be said. But in short, mods involved are no different then the pigs that abuse power and do not know/follow the rules
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        • C_losjoker
          Puro Tico
          • May 2008
          • 1121

          #64
          I could not help myself, I'm going after the revvy.

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          • BTAutoMag
            AO's Problem Child
            • Oct 2001
            • 7199

            #65
            its not for sale anymore

            and please stop
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            • BTAutoMag
              AO's Problem Child
              • Oct 2001
              • 7199

              #66
              Mod John on the Attack!

              You are on thin ice here. Let me be very clear.

              Do not leave feedback again for this deal unless it is a glowing positive response.

              You accepted money for an item you did not ship. This means you can receive feedback (in the rules). You did not ship it, so you may not leave retaliatory feedback (also in the rules).

              If you leave feedback for this deal again, you will be infracted or even banned.
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              • BTAutoMag
                AO's Problem Child
                • Oct 2001
                • 7199

                #67
                Originally posted by C_losjoker
                I could not help myself, I'm going after the revvy.
                biker sends you his thanks
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                • El Zilcho
                  Registered User
                  • Jul 2007
                  • 483

                  #68
                  This little public fit of his is doing far more damage to his rep than any neutral feedback ever would.
                  AO Feedback http://www.automags.org/forums/showt...mcl29-Feedback

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                  • Frizzle Fry
                    AO Micromag Guy
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 3280

                    #69
                    Seriously.


                    How has he not been banned yet?

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                    • BTAutoMag
                      AO's Problem Child
                      • Oct 2001
                      • 7199

                      #70
                      I'm literally just sitting here laughing
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                      • John Dresser
                        PbNation.com

                        • Sep 2001
                        • 122

                        #71
                        Hahaha, 4 pages? No one got time for dat.

                        Honestly, I've mediated more paintball feedback than anyone else in the world at this point since we have so much of it built up now. We can't help everyone since we don't see most the products, but this one is easy. You paid, he changed his mind. He refunded you, which is good, but he can't leave feedback that isn't positive for you.

                        Since you paid, you can leave him accurate feedback that says what happened and includes you were refunded, which you did. And a neutral is pretty fair.

                        Since he backed out after you paid, he can't leave you retaliatory negative or even neutral feedback since you did pay. Since he's tried more than once and hasn't understood a subtle hint, we were more direct. If he'd backed out before you paid, then neither one of you would be able to leave feedback on PbNation.

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                        • BTAutoMag
                          AO's Problem Child
                          • Oct 2001
                          • 7199

                          #72
                          I agree, and so far all 3 mods on this agree on the fact that when he told me "nevermind" it was impossible for me to see that until after I had sent it, via the timestamps
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                          • BTAutoMag
                            AO's Problem Child
                            • Oct 2001
                            • 7199

                            #73
                            This left by him:
                            John you have not supplied a link to any rule saying this. I have read them over countless times that are posted in the gear bag sales forum.

                            Paypal is not my back account.

                            Again stop treating it as if money was in my position for 24hours or more. It was literally 3-7 mins and only reason it wasnt refunded in 2sec. Or denied acceptance is

                            1) there's no "accept" "decline" button in PayPal only refund (so I used it)

                            2) most important. I was at the post office delivering hackattacks package which I have a receipt with time and date on it to prove I was not by my computer.

                            Otherwise I would have sent 30+ PMS saying Dont.

                            I have followed all the rules accept for "morals?" Which the other mod has stated. Again if I'm not breaking rules how am I going to get an infraction or a ban. (Obviously you will do it) but what wrong doing is being committed? If you are calling this a transaction. I'm allowed to leave feedback on feedback given.

                            Why are mods not aware of the rules on the b/s/t forum?
                            (Mods abusing power) gear bag forum rules have been followed and I have not broken a single one.

                            This guy however abused the feedback system and mods involved are permitting it. And forcing mine to be taken down.

                            This is a TRANSACTION to them, therefore both partys are aloud to give feedback.
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                            • John Dresser
                              PbNation.com

                              • Sep 2001
                              • 122

                              #74
                              Well, I'd hope the other two agreed with me. I wrote the rules and run the site...

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                              • BTAutoMag
                                AO's Problem Child
                                • Oct 2001
                                • 7199

                                #75
                                you couldnt possible know the rules as youre only a pig who abuses his power
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