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  • wetwrks
    Splatting since '85

    • Jun 2007
    • 1828

    #1

    Democrats Threaten To Pack Supreme Court

    So...the Democrats have been talking for a while now about expanding the number of Justices on the Supreme Court so they can choose and pack it with liberal judges that will rule as the Democrats want.

    Well...if the Supreme Court needs more Judges...perhaps the Republicans need to go ahead and expand the number of judges and fill it now.
  • Nobody
    Nobody's Perfect
    • Oct 2001
    • 3384

    #2
    That is one tactic the Democrats could use.

    But remember, there is no set number of Chief Justices for the Supreme court. Throughout the history, there have been as few as 6 and as many as 11. 9 is just a number that was settled on but not set in stone.

    Furthermore, this would not be an issue if back in 2016, that the senate Republicans hadn't closed ranks only to deny a valid candidate 9 months before the election, while now is 6 weeks before another election. With all the various seantors stating precident for allowing the people to choose the President & Justice, it would only be fair for the same to be applied now. But since Trump & the Republicans feel that they must grasp at every straw of power, do not expect things to go smoothly just because one side is challenging the impropriety of words/promises said, and the apparent fast track of the nomination.

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    • wetwrks
      Splatting since '85

      • Jun 2007
      • 1828

      #3
      Originally posted by Nobody
      That is one tactic the Democrats could use.

      But remember, there is no set number of Chief Justices for the Supreme court. Throughout the history, there have been as few as 6 and as many as 11. 9 is just a number that was settled on but not set in stone.

      Furthermore, this would not be an issue if back in 2016, that the senate Republicans hadn't closed ranks only to deny a valid candidate 9 months before the election, while now is 6 weeks before another election. With all the various seantors stating precident for allowing the people to choose the President & Justice, it would only be fair for the same to be applied now. But since Trump & the Republicans feel that they must grasp at every straw of power, do not expect things to go smoothly just because one side is challenging the impropriety of words/promises said, and the apparent fast track of the nomination.
      Actually...every time the Senate and President were of the same party and a Supreme Court Judge needed to be replaced within the last year of that President they have gotten replaced...this is true for BOTH parties. This is nothing new nor is it just a Republican thing. And...it is not unusual when the Senate and President are of different parties for the Supreme Court Judge to be delayed or denied...again true of both parties. You act as if only the Republicans have done this. Wrong.

      This Democrat packing of the Supreme Court isn't a recent threat...I have been hearing rumblings of this for a few years.

      I have mentioned it before...you need to get your head out of the sand and look around at the world and not just listen to what the media feeds you.
      Last edited by wetwrks; 09-22-2020, 08:45 PM.

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      • going_home
        Hebrews 13:8

        • Dec 2004
        • 8343

        #4
        The SCOTUS doesnt need more judges.

        They just need judges that will judge by the rule of law and stop legislating from the bench IE Roe vs Wade.

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        • wetwrks
          Splatting since '85

          • Jun 2007
          • 1828

          #5
          Originally posted by going_home
          The SCOTUS doesnt need more judges.

          They just need judges that will judge by the rule of law and stop legislating from the bench IE Roe vs Wade.
          Rule of law...they need to quit holding to revisionist history...and hold to the constitution and our constitutional rights.

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          • Nobody
            Nobody's Perfect
            • Oct 2001
            • 3384

            #6
            Originally posted by wetwrks
            Rule of law...they need to quit holding to revisionist history...and hold to the constitution and our constitutional rights.
            Laws are made to be changed, to reflect the times we live in. It is not revisionist, to look back, change what is injust and to make sure that the problems or injust laws are removed. The original draft held no rights to slaves. Is that something that shouldn't have been abolished? Making sure that women can not have laws made to exclude them from owning property, or even to be considered property is wrong?

            No, it is revisionist history because you see it from a bias. Laws are a living breathing concept that all citizens should follow.

            Originally posted by going_home
            The SCOTUS doesnt need more judges.

            They just need judges that will judge by the rule of law and stop legislating from the bench IE Roe vs Wade.
            You(and I) do not make that decision. We can petition our representatives, but the decision is up to the senators...

            You do realize, that that law extends to your rights as well? Not the exact ruling, but as an extension of your and every citizens rights to personal protections of how to live their life with the choices they make. You wish to live your life the way you or how you wish to. That is fine, that is your right. Likewise it is a right to allow a women to live her life, and if that is to get a medical procedure, then so be it. That is her life & your views, your opinions and your wants should not interfer nor matter. Likewise that women criticising your choices on how to live.

            The rights cut both ways. You can not hoist your views & not be held accountable yourself. Morality is another matter but does not play into the law.

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            • Nobody
              Nobody's Perfect
              • Oct 2001
              • 3384

              #7
              Addedum:

              Those of you that don't want the government to make the decisions for you, to interfer in your life, to track you, to have a say in your life. That is a part of R v W. That law establishes in no other way that you have a choice on your body & how you wish to live. Though there is freedom of speech, the rights to petition the government (funnily enough, many of you forget that a protest is just that, in the 1st amendment), no other law has a basis of personal choice. Remove that, then the rights you feel could be take now are severely weakened and subsequently by unfair, despotic & corrupt people whittling away any and all rights you might have till you have no rights.

              So everyone should support that law as it extends not directly to you but in the laws that you hold dearly.

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              • going_home
                Hebrews 13:8

                • Dec 2004
                • 8343

                #8
                You do understand that the supreme Court does not make laws, they just interpret the laws that are already made.

                That's what they are supposed to do but they have been making their own laws which needs to stop.

                The legislature is the branch of the government that is supposed to make the laws not the supreme Court.

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                • Xyxyll
                  Old School Airsmith

                  • Apr 2003
                  • 1161

                  #9
                  Originally posted by wetwrks
                  Actually...every time the Senate and President were of the same party and a Supreme Court Judge needed to be replaced within the last year of that President they have gotten replaced...this is true for BOTH parties. This is nothing new nor is it just a Republican thing. And...it is not unusual when the Senate and President are of different parties for the Supreme Court Judge to be delayed or denied...again true of both parties. You act as if only the Republicans have done this. Wrong.

                  This Democrat packing of the Supreme Court isn't a recent threat...I have been hearing rumblings of this for a few years.

                  I have mentioned it before...you need to get your head out of the sand and look around at the world and not just listen to what the media feeds you.
                  This is a moving goal post. R's said in 2016 many times that they're setting new precedent. They never once said they were denying the vote because Obama was a Dem. Graham literally says "use my words against me."

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                  • Nobody
                    Nobody's Perfect
                    • Oct 2001
                    • 3384

                    #10
                    Originally posted by going_home
                    You do understand that the supreme Court does not make laws, they just interpret the laws that are already made.

                    That's what they are supposed to do but they have been making their own laws which needs to stop.

                    The legislature is the branch of the government that is supposed to make the laws not the supreme Court.
                    So they do make laws or are you confused?

                    Legislation proposes the redaction of the law. The Supremem court votes how the Republicans want, the law is removed.

                    The supreme court is there to make sure that the laws are just & legal; checks & balances. But if the court is stacked were favors are being used, then any law that would benefit one side would be pushed through without opposition, regardless of justification or legality.

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                    • going_home
                      Hebrews 13:8

                      • Dec 2004
                      • 8343

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Nobody
                      So they do make laws or are you confused? They have been, its not their job to do so, sorry it confuses you.

                      Legislation proposes the redaction of the law. The Supremem court votes how the Republicans want, the law is removed. You are very confused, the legislature writes the laws, the SCOTUS is only to interpret the laws written.
                      The supreme court is there to make sure that the laws are just & legal; checks & balances. FALSE, they are only to interpret the laws thats it, nothing more.But if the court is stacked were favors are being used, then any law that would benefit one side would be pushed through without opposition, regardless of justification or legality.
                      Dont worry Doug, if the thugs on the left dont get their way they will just kill another conservative SC justice like they did Scalia (yea they didnt allow an autopsy), or dig up dirt and threaten them like they did to John Roberts to get him to vote their way on obummercare (his foreign born adopted kids were not adopted properly by US law) .

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                      • wetwrks
                        Splatting since '85

                        • Jun 2007
                        • 1828

                        #12
                        Justice Ginsburg has been praised for a lifetime of "fighting for what she believed in."

                        Unfortunately, she possessed the one job that requires the holder to dispossess themselves of personal biases and policy ambitions.

                        Senator Ted Cruz has repeatedly removed himself from consideration for the Supreme Court because he wants to be in the fight and understands that fight can only happen properly in the political arena. She should have done the same one way or the other.

                        Copied and edited from the Robertsons Family FB page.

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                        • rawbutter
                          Registered User
                          • Feb 2007
                          • 1463

                          #13
                          Originally posted by going_home
                          Dont worry Doug, if the thugs on the left dont get their way they will just kill another conservative SC justice like they did Scalia (yea they didnt allow an autopsy), or dig up dirt and threaten them like they did to John Roberts to get him to vote their way on obummercare (his foreign born adopted kids were not adopted properly by US law) .

                          Lol. Sure. Didn't allow an autopsy. His family didn't request one because his health was terrible and his death wasn't really a surprise. A doctor had recently postponed some surgery because he was afraid Scalia wasn't strong enough to survive. Then Scalia went to bed after an exhausting, busy day and never woke up the next morning. No foul play. Not even the slightest suspicion from anyone close to him that it was anything but natural causes. That's why it wasn't treated like a criminal investigation.

                          If you're desperate to find conspiracies committed by extremists, you should look elsewhere. Like, the white house. Did you know that the current administration had a complete covid response plan ready to go, but then that fascist Stephen Miller realized that the hardest hit areas were also the areas that were dominated by democratic voters? So they backed off. Trump has allowed hundreds of thousands of people die (sorry, I meant to say democrats, not people) just because it helps his reelection chances.

                          Killing a judge really doesn't look so bad in comparison.

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                          • Tunaman
                            Specialized AGD Tech

                            • Dec 2000
                            • 8643

                            #14
                            Originally posted by rawbutter
                            Lol. Sure. Didn't allow an autopsy. His family didn't request one because his health was terrible and his death wasn't really a surprise. A doctor had recently postponed some surgery because he was afraid Scalia wasn't strong enough to survive. Then Scalia went to bed after an exhausting, busy day and never woke up the next morning. No foul play. Not even the slightest suspicion from anyone close to him that it was anything but natural causes. That's why it wasn't treated like a criminal investigation.

                            If you're desperate to find conspiracies committed by extremists, you should look elsewhere. Like, the white house. Did you know that the current administration had a complete covid response plan ready to go, but then that fascist Stephen Miller realized that the hardest hit areas were also the areas that were dominated by democratic voters? So they backed off. Trump has allowed hundreds of thousands of people die (sorry, I meant to say democrats, not people) just because it helps his reelection chances.

                            Killing a judge really doesn't look so bad in comparison.
                            What a bunch of crap you spew. Donald Trump has done everything any state has asked him to do...except give them money to bail out their failed pension systems He sent help they all swear they needed but didnt. It's not his fault the Chinese let this virus out. Place the blame where it belongs...on the Chinese. Vote red or the socialists take over. All Americans should vote against socialism.
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                            • Nobody
                              Nobody's Perfect
                              • Oct 2001
                              • 3384

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Tunaman
                              What a bunch of crap you spew. Donald Trump has done everything any state has asked him to do...except give them money to bail out their failed pension systems He sent help they all swear they needed but didnt. It's not his fault the Chinese let this virus out. Place the blame where it belongs...on the Chinese. Vote red or the socialists take over. All Americans should vote against socialism.
                              Wow tuna, at least stay on topic of the Supreme Court.

                              The Chinese don't have anything to do with RBG, nor the Supreme Court. Looking for someone to blame & then do nothing about it, does not help any one of the more than 200,000 and counting deaths. Even if China took the blame, what does assigning blame do? Seriously, you and the Trump party want to make this into a nation versus nation thing while the deaths keep piling up. The president's job is to PROTECT the people. Republicans & democrats; white, black, yellow, red or rainbow. If they are a citizen, then they should have been given the right information, the correct prevention to help insure more lives would be saved than panicing the stock market because donnie boy was more worried about his portfolio than his constituents, constituents that would or could have reelected him. Now he will loose, cry foul & then face criminal, civil & federal charges(one can only hope).

                              One thing assured is, trump will be the most famous 1 term president, only from his total ineptitude, grand incompetence & criminal behavior. Nixon can finally say, from hell, "see, i wasn't even that bad".

                              And i guess you don't want your Social security checks or medicare either, since those are socialist practices. No red american would want to be party to getting those kinds of government run programs, lol

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