New Ani-Gun Cali Law

[Nobody]

Thinking about all this, I believe I should tell you all about a secret formula I have for determining how or why I can be an expert(your words not mine. I would say I am a ranked amateur), on all these subjects. Though many would think that I just go to the opposite of the proposed but not popular opinion, which is wrong. It's just that your opinion happens to be the opposite of mine. So pick something I can agree with and I won't be such a problem. But I also read a lot, from many varied and differing sources, and I am not talking about the news channels. Add to that, that I have a different background, and different experiences, but we can all say that. While all of that helps it is not why I can safely say what is right in the world.

But here it is:
You take whatever a democrat does and switch places with a republican and vice versa. So when I republican is caught doing the same damn thing that a Democrat does but you don't get all butt hurt about it, then I know you are wrong.

Simple as that. For examples:
Hillary had private email servers. Republicans say that is bad.
Ivanka had a private email server. Republicans don't say anything is wrong.
Hillary had secret documents. Republicans say that it's treasonous.
The ex-president had secret documents and the republicans say everything except the very thing they call out on Hillary.
Republicans say that all BLM protestors should be shot, jailed and whatever.
Republicans say Jan 6th was just a peaceful protest that no one got hurt.
Republicans say that they are for the police and law enforcement.
Republicans get caught by the DOJ and the FBI and now they want to 'defend the FBI and DOJ'.
Republicans say that the Ebola outbreak was a failure cause 3 people died under Obama's admin
Under the previous administration 400,000 people died and it was ok. The epidemic was going to pass in April 2020, when the weather warmed up.


See the hypocrisy....

So yea, I am no expert. But if I put anything political into that little formula and see that one side stops the outcry, then I know it is bad. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure it out.

[Nobody]

You spew so much garbage the flies must be insane at your house and the bridge where you sleep... Denial with your head in a bubble. I thing Big Evil already covered my response so all I will say is "DITTO".

I find it very laughable when you stated that "not my problem" or " is doesn't affect so IDGAF" so un-liberal of you since you all think you have all the answers for everyone's problem.

Yes, that is very good of you to be the sheep and just follow what someone else says.

And if I could really fix everyone's problems, do you think I would waste my time talking to the morons that think sedition is just the colour the mex-president strays his face with?

Tuna: he doesn't need a doctor he needs to get off the government teet, get a job in the private sector where you have to actually work and perform (not just show up) and find out that the REAL struggle is.

So delusional that is he completely out of touch yet thinks he is an expert on all of this.
:rofl:

While I work for the government, I am neither state, federal nor county. I have worked in the private sector and I would rather get paid for doing what I do. And since I can conceivably retire at anytime I want to, why should I? If you think busting my butt for minimum wage makes you better, while it is nice to get your hands dirty to know what it feels like, umm no. Why should I? That is exactly the reason why some many people quit their jobs, not because they don't want to work, it is because you think it's the right thing to do to suffer for the job. No thank you, I will gladly take my double time and a half for working a holiday. I will work my midnights while doing whatever I want, while you do the 2hr commute.

Scrooge McDuck said, work smarter not harder. Best thing TV ever taught me.

[Nobody]

President Trump EXCLUSIVELY as president has the sole authority, in and of himself to declassify anything at anytime without a lick of anyone else's approval or process. He can literally say "POOF" and something that is classified is now unclassified. Obama did the same thing and apparently has millions of pages of documents in his possession from him time in office. All perfectly legal.

Oh look, it's Scott.

You are absolutely correct except for the part where president could declassify documents with the wave of his magic wand. Government doesn't work that way and it is generally the standing order that a president may want something declassified but refers to the body that the document is attached to(navy for ship secrets, CIA for foreign secrets, etc). So a president may want to but the security of the nation is above the presidency. The government runs on triplicate and even his admin was no different.

And, even if that were to be true, which it isn't, why has there been stories of but not inclusive to: the FBI planting the information, the legality of the search warrant, the lack of records stating the ex-president declassified the documents, defying the court order from NARA to produce those documents, the fact that the ex-president's staff had complied to not only send over documents earlier this year but sworn to a statement stating that there were no more documents.

Hillary on the other hand was secretary of state and has NO SUCH AUTHORITY.

She certainly had authority to know and have clearance for knowing secrets. When you are 4th in succession and literally the right hand of the president when dealing with foreign governments, you will be able to know a few things.

Conducting classified business on a personal server is a crime.

And so was Ivanka, who was only an advisor to the president, in a much lower position than cabinet member.

She should have been locked up but they covered up for her, because they dont eat their own and if they did Obama apparently was replying to Hilldawg emails to her personal address proving he knew what she was doing .

So by that logic, though Hilary was cleared for having those 3 emails by the FBI. Yet I find it's a much different situation where a secret server is holding them versus a country club where the documents where kept next to the chaffing dishes and the spare deck chairs. So if you really think that Hilary should be indicted for her 3 secret documents, then you must be furious of trumps 300 documents. And not to mention the fact that she had them while at work, versus being a retiree at his home with no security and someone not 2 days later walked in to take a selfie...

[Loguzzzzzz]

You need a doctor Bro...

Tuna: he doesn't need a doctor he needs to get off the government teet, get a job in the private sector where you have to actually work and perform (not just show up) and find out that the REAL struggle is.

So delusional that is he completely out of touch yet thinks he is an expert on all of this.
:rofl:

[Loguzzzzzz]

Look at the colors.

You spew so much garbage the flies must be insane at your house and the bridge where you sleep... Denial with your head in a bubble. I thing Big Evil already covered my response so all I will say is "DITTO".

I find it very laughable when you stated that "not my problem" or " is doesn't affect so IDGAF" so un-liberal of you since you all think you have all the answers for everyone's problem.

[BigEvil]

President Trump EXCLUSIVELY as president has the sole authority, in and of himself to declassify anything at anytime without a lick of anyone else's approval or process. He can literally say "POOF" and something that is classified is now unclassified. Obama did the same thing and apparently has millions of pages of documents in his possession from him time in office. All perfectly legal.

Hillary on the other hand was secretary of state and has NO SUCH AUTHORITY. Conducting classified business on a personal server is a crime. She should have been locked up but they covered up for her, because they dont eat their own and if they did Obama apparently was replying to Hilldawg emails to her personal address proving he knew what she was doing .

[Nobody]

You need a doctor Bro...

Nope, I just take the lunacy that you believe in poke holes in it and lay it out for all to see.

[Tunaman]

You need a doctor Bro...

[Nobody]

Lying, stealing, crooked Democrats that should all be in jail. anyone who breaks the law, should be prosecuted, not just democrats, everyone.
Even the Post office was in on it. you mean the PO that was headed by deJoy, who was appointed by the ex-president, who implemented tasks and procedures to halt or slow down the mail in view of the impending mail in ballots during 2020. Funny how trump could appoint someone who works with the democrats.
Anyone that says it is fake is a traitor. is that the kind of traitor that steals stuff too, and was found in a golf resort? Lol
Absentee ballots my arse. funny how only when the absentee ballots became important did anyone ever care about them. So, i guess you didn'tlike trump voting tbat way too, huh?
Dispute this Nobody. gladly, this is fun. You make me laugh, Tuna
Same thing as 2000 mules. is that the same piece of garbage that foxnews, the most trusted news source ever, didn'teven touch with a 10ft pole, who they themselves discredited? Wow, if fox news says, no thank you, what does it really say about it?
They cheated and everyone knows it. you can say that, but every time someone asks for the proof to this, the supposed evidence do not stand up to any sort of scrutiny. Maybe there is a problem with the evidence? Funny how the DOJ had evidence of government documents being kept at mar-a-lago and wow, they found them there.
When the administration changes these people will have wished they didnt steal the election. Change from one Democrat to the next? Cause the republican party as i see it, so far can nkt win an election without cheating or stacking the deck and the more that this comes to light of what and how they GOP is bent on cheating the elections, the less chances they will have at ever winning another election again.
POS all of them . tsk tsk tsk, don't you know that acronyms are against the rules for trying to bypass the filter system

i see tuna as a purple

[Nobody]

Are you sure you want to stick with this? Source

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ok, and that means what?

Because Presidents have the right to retain certain documents. no they don't. Being a president is just a job. Though they get some privileges and hinderances, they are not omnipotent, no matter what they say. So they are still beholden to the same laws as you or me or any citizen.

Waiting to see how all this pans out myself but I am pretty sure that it will end up being a nothing-burger just like all the others have been but you just keep on hoping and praying. Since you belong to the party of division. Unity my F'n arse. i remember a time when the whole political world was up in flames when Hilary got caught with her own p4ivate server and had 3 secret documents on there. You know a whole party calling her out for treason, and to be jailed. Now we have someone that had more than 300% of what Hilary had and your nonplussed about it. Talk about a hypocrite.

But my honest opinion is the DOJ will present him with the case, lay out that he will loose and that he will get a sweet heart deal of going away, never to be seen again. He committed treasonous acts of stealing classified, secret and top secret information. So he can take the deal or go against the full might of the DOJ or be labelled a traitor and jailed till he dies.

As things keep on it turns out the Biden denial of any knowledge of the raid is garbage.... Talk about a LIAR... although he could have just forgotten. even if he knew about so what, the case isn't Joe Biden vs Anyone, it was the DOJ retrieving documents that belong to the government, after serving subpoenas, being told that was all, getting a warrant to search and finding even more than anyone thought. But don'tyou know, all politicians lie, that is their job. Nice to see someone at your advanced age still be niave to how things work.

Also funny how none of the major networks carried Biden's hate ridden speech the other day... I would love to hear your excuse....err...I mean reason. AFAIK they all did. Don't know, i think i watching the Phillies game or i was doing something else, maybe getting ready for work. IDK, nor do i care. The e d result of it all was that the message got out, and maybe the networks didn't cover it then but they did afterwards and the speech, like a lightning bolt, came and got everyone's attention.

Look at the colors.

[Nobody]

You say the laws are not stopping me from having what I have...correct. But it stops my child. My grand child. It stops me from getting anything else. Don't be stupid. It is not just about me that we are fighting this anti-gun battle. It is about the generations after us. well, as I tried to show, there are similarities of what I or others see as more important. Now if you are truly passionate about this, then you wojld actively do something about it in your area. Start a written petition, do a email campaign, basically, reach out and educate people so that they can make more informed decisionsthat can lessen the laws. That is the American way.

As far as the abortion thing...that is a typical liberal debate tactic. Don't like the discussion...change the topic. This is about firearms and not about abortion. Keep on topic. not changing the topic but showing how it is the same on how one side dictates a law(s) that effect what we want to happen inthe world. So I am not changing the topic, but showing to you that it is more than just this one topic.

You say oh...it isn't happening...I show where it is happening in places like Cali and NY and such and you ignore the fact IT IS HAPPENING...by dismissing it under "it doesn't apply to me"...that does not change the fact it is happening and you have been proven WRONG. let me make it clearer. You have an agenda as we all do. I am no better. So since you are personally invested in the topic, then you should be well informed with the questions i have. So if i ask you to show me, it means that i don't want some podunk, shared email but a credible news source, since this would be considered news. So you can say that it is happening everywhere but i do not have to believe you because i am not paranoid about it. Like i said in my hypothetical"gun removal agency" post. No one is coming to indiscriminately take guns from law abiding citizenswho have done nothing. But not about people who you feel are wronged when the charges and conviof said charges prove yoir opinion wrong.

As an example...someone recently was not allowed to inherit their fathers police revolver because of the restriction on ownership in the state they live in. They were not felons. But the laws were so restrictive they could not own it. ok, what is the inheritor's reasoning why they can't own it? What about having the gun deactivated? Just because you are not a felon doesn't necessarily mean that you should have a firearm. A schizophrenic person isn't a felon as well, but i would be be damned if that was my relative and giving him a gun. So there are always 2 sides to a story, but i never get the full one from any of your examples.

Nether the item I owned nor bumpstocks were grandfathered. So...your comments on grandfathering do not apply. It went directly from in writing legal to if you have this you are a felon simply because the ATF changed its mind. No laws passed. No representatives to represent you. It was a arbitrary decision based on who is pulling the strings on the head of the ATF. well, I think bumpstocks are stupid. I'll agree that arm braces but it doesn't mean that you can'tuse a firearm the way ot was intended. Yes, i am aware of quick change rules. Oh well, b3 happy that you can get the things you can. Like i said, if you want to change something, buy a representative, i know republicanscan be bought quite easily, and get some rules/laws changed

Posting in living colour

[Tunaman]

Lying, stealing, crooked Democrats that should all be in jail. Even the Post office was in on it. Anyone that says it is fake is a traitor. Absentee ballots my arse. Dispute this Nobody. Same thing as 2000 mules. They cheated and everyone knows it. When the administration changes these people will have wished they didnt steal the election. POS all of them .

[going_home]

Found this-
https://rumble.com/v1iwsp3-13-min.-o...6tc17&mc=9kez7

Heresay I tell you, fake news said nobody.....

[Loguzzzzzz]

....Any wonder why republican party is getting smaller and smaller....

Are you sure you want to stick with this? Source

How about you tell us how a supposed person is not a felony when they stole government documents that in every way to the common man would be in jail already?

Because Presidents have the right to retain certain documents.

Waiting to see how all this pans out myself but I am pretty sure that it will end up being a nothing-burger just like all the others have been but you just keep on hoping and praying. Since you belong to the party of division. Unity my F'n arse.

As things keep on it turns out the Biden denial of any knowledge of the raid is garbage.... Talk about a LIAR... although he could have just forgotten.
Also funny how none of the major networks carried Biden's hate ridden speech the other day... I would love to hear your excuse....err...I mean reason.

[wetwrks]

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You say the laws are not stopping me from having what I have...correct. But it stops my child. My grand child. It stops me from getting anything else. Don't be stupid. It is not just about me that we are fighting this anti-gun battle. It is about the generations after us.

As far as the abortion thing...that is a typical liberal debate tactic. Don't like the discussion...change the topic. This is about firearms and not about abortion. Keep on topic.

You say oh...it isn't happening...I show where it is happening in places like Cali and NY and such and you ignore the fact IT IS HAPPENING...by dismissing it under "it doesn't apply to me"...that does not change the fact it is happening and you have been proven WRONG.

As an example...someone recently was not allowed to inherit their fathers police revolver because of the restriction on ownership in the state they live in. They were not felons. But the laws were so restrictive they could not own it.

Nether the item I owned nor bumpstocks were grandfathered. So...your comments on grandfathering do not apply. It went directly from in writing legal to if you have this you are a felon simply because the ATF changed its mind. No laws passed. No representatives to represent you. It was a arbitrary decision based on who is pulling the strings on the head of the ATF.