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  • going_home
    Hebrews 13:8

    • Dec 2004
    • 8343

    #16
    Originally posted by Nobody
    Lol, thanks. I needed that laugh.

    Hate to tell you, it is not your vote that elects someone, nor mine. It is those people who are undecided, that ebb, and flow from one side to the other. And unlike the gangsta hip-hop scene which I know nothing about, the idea of gaining your criminal bona-fides as a boost to get all those god fearing, white laced never done nothing people in the middle is well, laughable. So no, you would be an idiot to think that a convicted criminal would gain in popularity, enough to win.

    Besides, if trump couldn't win in 20, how could a more popular and more accomplished presidency not return for a 2nd term? You have to be a moron to not take a slamdunk 2nd term....
    He's neither a criminal nor has he been convicted of anything, even after 4 years of Russia Russia Russia lies, your facts are only yours, no one else thats not mentally ill believes them....

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    • Nobody
      Nobody's Perfect
      • Oct 2001
      • 3384

      #17
      Originally posted by going_home
      He's neither a criminal nor has he been convicted of anything, even after 4 years of Russia Russia Russia lies, your facts are only yours, no one else thats not mentally ill believes them....

      While it is true that all people are presumed innocent before a trial, he is facing indictments on multiple charges. And one would presume that the odds of all those charges being proven innocent is well slim to none.

      And I do love how so many people keep thinking that his first impeachment was the crux of all of his problems, I would look more at the fraud charges with NY, the defamation and rape case, the secret document retention case, the voter intimidation/fraud in Georgia and I am sure I am forgetting one.

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      • Tunaman
        Specialized AGD Tech

        • Dec 2000
        • 8643

        #18
        Originally posted by Nobody
        While it is true that all people are presumed innocent before a trial, he is facing indictments on multiple charges. And one would presume that the odds of all those charges being proven innocent is well slim to none.

        And I do love how so many people keep thinking that his first impeachment was the crux of all of his problems, I would look more at the fraud charges with NY, the defamation and rape case, the secret document retention case, the voter intimidation/fraud in Georgia and I am sure I am forgetting one.
        tell us more after the entire Biden clan goes to jail for money laundering and corruption...that they have been doing for the last 50 years. When the Secretary of the Navy says that climate change is there number one focus, most of the country knows that we have a serious problem with this administration and their equity hires.
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        • maniacmechanic
          PrestonCoPaintball
          • Aug 2006
          • 3453

          #19
          Originally posted by Nobody
          While it is true that all people are presumed innocent before a trial, he is facing indictments on multiple charges. And one would presume that the odds of all those charges being proven innocent is well slim to none.

          And I do love how so many people keep thinking that his first impeachment was the crux of all of his problems, I would look more at the fraud charges with NY, the defamation and rape case, the secret document retention case, the voter intimidation/fraud in Georgia and I am sure I am forgetting one.
          I hear they just got Trump for an old JayWalkin charge from 1963

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          • Nobody
            Nobody's Perfect
            • Oct 2001
            • 3384

            #20
            Originally posted by Tunaman
            tell us more after the entire Biden clan goes to jail for money laundering and corruption...that they have been doing for the last 50 years. When the Secretary of the Navy says that climate change is there number one focus, most of the country knows that we have a serious problem with this administration and their equity hires.
            If the Biden family was so evil and corrupt, where is the proof, where is the investigations into that? Surely any of this talk wasn't drummed up solely when Biden took the democratic nomination and became president. If that level of fraud would surely have long and lingering ties that would have started way before 2020, or even during the 40 years he spent in Congress. Why wasn't there investigations when the GOP held both houses of congress, or the senate, or the house? So tell me where is the evidence, where is anything more than a displacement of tru.p for Biden?

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            • going_home
              Hebrews 13:8

              • Dec 2004
              • 8343

              #21

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              • Nobody
                Nobody's Perfect
                • Oct 2001
                • 3384

                #22
                Morals of a man cheating on his wife/vows is not in question. Where he got the money to pay for the hush money is a different matter.

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                • Loguzzzzzz
                  Practice Target

                  • Sep 2004
                  • 2121

                  #23
                  Nobody, your nativity is only overshadowed by you denial and your ignorance.

                  I'm not even going to bother to try and explain it, you wouldn't listen....

                  Ignorance is bliss, I hope you are enjoying your blissful life.

                  Don't bother to reply because your explanations are meaningless and your opinions are just that, your opinions.....
                  ......You know you want one!!

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                  • Pyrate Jim
                    Shi Tamajutsu Ka
                    • May 2002
                    • 1052

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Nobody
                    While it is true that all people are presumed innocent before a trial, he is facing indictments on multiple charges. And one would presume that the odds of all those charges being proven innocent is well slim to none.
                    Let's see.
                    Russia Gate
                    Impeachment one
                    Bounty Gate
                    Impeachment two
                    Mueller investigation
                    Jan 6
                    Mar-A-Lago raid

                    Slim to none? Assume the same odds and Trump is still up seven to zero and walks free today. Keep throwing accusations at the wall to see what sticks and so far?
                    Which horse are you going to lay money on?
                    The indictment of a former president on a criminal charge is setting a National precedent never done before. Done once, it can be done again.
                    Who would be target number two when the pendulum swings the other way?
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                    • going_home
                      Hebrews 13:8

                      • Dec 2004
                      • 8343

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Nobody
                      If the Biden family was so evil and corrupt, where is the proof, where is the investigations into that? Surely any of this talk wasn't drummed up solely when Biden took the democratic nomination and became president. If that level of fraud would surely have long and lingering ties that would have started way before 2020, or even during the 40 years he spent in Congress. Why wasn't there investigations when the GOP held both houses of congress, or the senate, or the house? So tell me where is the evidence, where is anything more than a displacement of tru.p for Biden?


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                      • Nobody
                        Nobody's Perfect
                        • Oct 2001
                        • 3384

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Pyrate Jim
                        Let's see.
                        Russia Gate Impeachment doesn't mean he was innocent, and congressional inquiry isn't a trial, you can'tbe found not guilty of them.
                        Impeachment one see above, cause it was the same thing
                        Bounty Gate trump wasn'ta member of the New Orleans Saints so again throwing in meaningless rubbish to the topic. Stay on target red 2.
                        Impeachment two again, not a trial nor does it declare his innocence.
                        Mueller investigation which part? The investigation on whether there was russian influence into the DNC, and wasn'ta investigation into anything trump or the RNC had done, but if you consider that this was done under the trump admin and had some 30+ convictions, that would be a win?
                        Jan 6 Still on going
                        Mar-A-Lago raid still on going, but the raid was legally preformed, it was the attempt at retention and lying to the government that is the problem

                        Slim to none? i know it is a typical GOP tactic to count the gimmes and not actually face the music, as it were, so you need to do some recojnting Assume the same odds and Trump is still up seven to zero and walks free today. you can't count the same odds as trials are not gambling. And your counting is wrong. It is like saying that trump is 0 for 3 in presidential assassinations. Keep throwing accusations at the wall to see what sticks and so far? i don't have to throw anything against the wall, as i am not a lawyer or litigant. But, what i am doing is showing all too what is still on going.
                        Which horse are you going to lay money on? always with the house.
                        The indictment of a former president on a criminal charge is setting a National precedent never done before. Done once, it can be done again. unprecedented doesn't mean it is impossible. I guess like all presidents before and probably after to either not do anything illegal or have better lawyers
                        Who would be target number two when the pendulum swings the other way? oh, do you mean the Impeachment attempts Bidenthat have gone no where? Oh yes, bring it on, alomg with all those calls for investigatios into the Soros back, Hillary joint Biden family wave of corruption family. Did i use enough word salad for you
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                        • going_home
                          Hebrews 13:8

                          • Dec 2004
                          • 8343

                          #27


                          This Stormy Daniel's thing is going nowhere.

                          Michael Cohen paid her not Trump, he did it on his own, he took out a loan to pay her....

                          If you want to find the truth watch the whole video.

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                          • Tunaman
                            Specialized AGD Tech

                            • Dec 2000
                            • 8643

                            #28
                            Originally posted by going_home


                            This Stormy Daniel's thing is going nowhere.

                            Michael Cohen paid her not Trump, he did it on his own, he took out a loan to pay her....

                            If you want to find the truth watch the whole video.
                            He won't believe that. He only believes what Joy Behar abd Whoopi tell him...
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                            • Pyrate Jim
                              Shi Tamajutsu Ka
                              • May 2002
                              • 1052

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Nobody
                              Impeachment doesn't mean he was innocent, and congressional inquiry isn't a trial, you can'tbe found not guilty of them.
                              Senate acquittal means he could not be considered guilty, either.
                              see above, cause it was the same thing See above, it's the same thing.
                              Bounty Gate trump wasn'ta member of the New Orleans Saints so again throwing in meaningless rubbish to the topic. Stay on target red 2.
                              Which target are you referring to?
                              Impeachment two again, not a trial nor does it declare his innocence. Neither does it declare guilt.
                              Mueller investigation which part? The investigation on whether there was russian influence into the DNC, and wasn'ta investigation into anything trump or the RNC had done, but if you consider that this was done under the trump admin and had some 30+ convictions, that would be a win?
                              After how many months and how many millions of taxpayers dollars were spent proving nothing? I wouldn't call that a win for anyone.
                              Jan 6 Still on going Yes, by dragging in another 1000 innocent people to be charged with high crimes for walking around not setting stuff on fire.
                              Mar-A-Lago raid still on going, but the raid was legally preformed, it was the attempt at retention and lying to the government that is the problem
                              Love the "preformed". Freudian slip?

                              Slim to none? i know it is a typical GOP tactic to count the gimmes and not actually face the music, as it were, so you need to do some recojnting Assume the same odds and Trump is still up seven to zero and walks free today. you can't count the same odds as trials are not gambling. And your counting is wrong. It is like saying that trump is 0 for 3 in presidential assassinations. Keep throwing accusations at the wall to see what sticks and so far? i don't have to throw anything against the wall, as i am not a lawyer or litigant. But, what i am doing is showing all too what is still on going. No, actually. You don't show anything except denial.
                              Which horse are you going to lay money on? always with the house. That's what the British thought in 1776.
                              The indictment of a former president on a criminal charge is setting a National precedent never done before. Done once, it can be done again. unprecedented doesn't mean it is impossible. I guess like all presidents before and probably after to either not do anything illegal or have better lawyers
                              Claiming precedence opens doors that once unlocked may not be so easy to close, which like a pendulum can swing both ways.
                              Who would be target number two when the pendulum swings the other way? oh, do you mean the Impeachment attempts Bidenthat have gone no where? Oh yes, bring it on, alomg with all those calls for investigatios into the Soros back, Hillary joint Biden family wave of corruption family. Did i use enough word salad for you
                              I'm unaware of any impeachment proceedings against Pres Biden other than deep-fake memes or Babylon Bee satires. Perhaps you could educate me with actual proof instead of hyperbole and rhetoric.
                              Playing with colors.
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                              • Nobody
                                Nobody's Perfect
                                • Oct 2001
                                • 3384

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Pyrate Jim
                                Senate acquittal means he could not be considered guilty, either.
                                But you have to think that the ignominious fact that the man did something so egregious that it resulted in not one but 2 impeachment. Andrew Johnson left office before he could be impeached, and he is a bottom 5 rated president, Nixon resigned before a vote could be taken and Clinton's impeachment was just partisanship at its worse.

                                Originally posted by Pyrate Jim
                                Which target are you referring to?
                                Star Wars ereference on the tench attack on the death star.

                                Originally posted by Pyrate Jim
                                Neither does it declare guilt.
                                guilt?!? There is about half of the convicted inmates that say they aren't guilty. While he was not proven guilty in a courtroom, guilt that lead to the impeachment is more than enough for me, as it was more than enough for both houses of congress.

                                Originally posted by Pyrate Jim
                                After how many months and how many millions of taxpayers dollars were spent proving nothing? I wouldn't call that a win for anyone.
                                Well 3+ years and 3 trials 2 dismissals and the other was reduced charges, costing about $6.5 million. Oh wait, that was the Durham report. Mueller was 30+ indictments, 7 convictions cost between $30 to $35 million(sources differ) but garnering at least $42 million from Manafort forfeiture of money. So you can read that a a positive gain for the taxpayer.

                                Originally posted by Pyrate Jim
                                Yes, by dragging in another 1000 innocent people to be charged with high crimes for walking around not setting stuff on fire.
                                But, were they allowed to walk there? Not only because of covid restrictions, but because of congress, the building is not open to the public in certain instances. So it really doesn't matter if they were the ones with weapons, stealing stuff, defecating and causing damage, trespassing is still against the law, or do you just ignore the laws that you don't like?

                                Originally posted by Pyrate Jim
                                Love the "preformed". Freudian slip?
                                No, just a common mistake of writing.

                                Originally posted by Pyrate Jim
                                No, actually. You don't show anything except denial
                                Because you say that it in denial? You are judging only what your beliefs in the matter are the truth. I come from the fact that there is, my side, your side and the truth in between.

                                Originally posted by Pyrate Jim
                                That's what the British thought in 1776.
                                No, I come from NJ, and I learned early on that gambling is the only way to take a large amount of money and make it disappear. So while it, gambling, can be fun for some, it is not. So, in gambling, the House always wins.

                                Originally posted by Pyrate Jim
                                Claiming precedence opens doors that once unlocked may not be so easy to close, which like a pendulum can swing both ways.
                                No it doesn't. Unprecedented only means it hasn't happened before. There was nothing like it to happen before. And one key thing to remember is, a president and former president is still a citizen of the US and is not above any laws. So again, it is either trump has horrible lawyers that can't hide his illegal activities or every other president has better ones that can hide them.

                                Originally posted by Pyrate Jim
                                I'm unaware of any impeachment proceedings against Pres Biden other than deep-fake memes or Babylon Bee satires. Perhaps you could educate me with actual proof instead of hyperbole and rhetoric.
                                Really? It was from, no surprise MTG. Here you go, https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-...-resolution/57
                                And maybe because it was known to fail, your news sources didn't want to show how bad the GOP is doing in passing legislation.

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