So...How's it going?

[Nobody]

This cannot be good:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/energy-experts-sound-alarm-over-joe-biden-s-deal-to-accelerate-oil-and-gas-shutdown/ar-AA1k5zTs?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=DCTS&cvid=d0b9491936bf4b7bb30090ea212a9f9c&ei=9

Building "Green Energy" is a good thing. To begin by knocking down the foundation needed to build it with, not so good.

It has nothing to do with "knocking down the foundation", more of partly a feel good deal to give China the money edge and partly a clear pathway for domestic green energy companies.

Even by that article, China doesn't care what it is doing. 27% of emissions, 3 times the US in 2nd place, so there is no penalty to do that, just a hope that the green energy market could either supplant fossil fuels or have a breakthrough to surpass fossil fuels. This is an easy win for China that the US is giving them. So, for the US to win, you have to add in the directive of the Biden admin, pushing green energy development and future dominance in the marketplace.

You have to read between the lines, 3ven moreso with poorly source and written articles like this. You can't have everything just given to you.

[going_home]

Love that Photobucket logo....

[Loguzzzzzz]

Check the Jim Crow laws and who wrote them, then tell me how your party is the party of tolerance. Same with all the civil rights laws regarding Women's and Black American rights. Check the voting records...0 democrats supported any of them.

The proof is there.
You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink.... or THINK!
Mr. Ed!

[Pyrate Jim]

It has nothing to do with "knocking down the foundation", more of partly a feel good deal to give China the money edge and partly a clear pathway for domestic green energy companies.

Even by that article, China doesn't care what it is doing. 27% of emissions, 3 times the US in 2nd place, so there is no penalty to do that, just a hope that the green energy market could either supplant fossil fuels or have a breakthrough to surpass fossil fuels. This is an easy win for China that the US is giving them. So, for the US to win, you have to add in the directive of the Biden admin, pushing green energy development and future dominance in the marketplace.

You have to read between the lines, 3ven moreso with poorly source and written articles like this. You can't have everything just given to you.

Did you know that Jellyfish have existed for 360 million years, despite not having a brain. I used to have hope for humanity, now I think You've destroyed that.

Every sentence of that post is so bass ackwards that I can only conclude that it's intentional and you feel all warm and fuzzy inside now that you have contradicted reality once again.

[Nobody]

Did you know that Jellyfish have existed for 360 million years, despite not having a brain. I used to have hope for humanity, now I think You've destroyed that.

Every sentence of that post is so bass ackwards that I can only conclude that it's intentional and you feel all warm and fuzzy inside now that you have contradicted reality once again.

You see opinions as facts and facts as opinions. This is a fundamental argument that you support. Though you may not specifically say it, but because you support the GOP and everything that promote, you have internalized that idea. You literally are trying to use and confuse the plethora of topics and issues only because they are the opposite of your conservatism, the knee-jerk reaction to anything liberal, without regard to how or why it could be effective. Then, when someone comes out with a differing opinion ,that might have a better grasp on the situation, you stomp your foot because all the people, all the news sources tell you one thing and it doesn't quite mesh with it.

Articles like that last one, while not filling dripping in partisan rhetoric, you still have to read between the lines on what it means. To a point, you have to read it like Shakespeare, in that you disregard half of what is being said as fluff, and the other half is the true meaning. Now that is my own interpretation, and I could be wrong. But I acknowledge that that is my own opinion and I could be very wrong. Not with you and others that share your and similar viewpoints. You look at it in finite terms, instead of the flowing and every changing waters of life.

And the funniest thing is, I do not have to be right about anything, I just have to prove you wrong. Something that is quite easily done without situation, without links and with hardly any research. At most, I read something from here & ponder it for a few hours, building up what I want to say. This, this was spur of thr moment and I am still not wrong. Not because it is just my opinion, but by the fact that instead of challenging what I had to say, you go after me, to insult me. Again, that, THAT very tactic shows that you have no legs in a butt kicking contest.you want subservience to anything and everything you say, because the republican party wants and demands to rule over everyone's lives. Do as I say and not as I do. Sorry, that does not work in these United States of America.

[going_home]

I've seen videos with people stating their opinions, that from what they see happing, they don't think there will be a presidential election in 2024.

What are your thoughts on the probability that, if they can't take Trump down and stop him, they will pull martial law ?

What say you ?

[Nobody]

I've seen videos with people stating their opinions, that from what they see happing, they don't think there will be a presidential election in 2024.

What are your thoughts on the probability that, if they can't take Trump down and stop him, they will pull martial law ?

What say you ?

There will be an election. Trump has, so far, become the front tunnel and presumptive nominee for the ticket. Even with the ruling in Colorado, in it's best King Solomon ruling, there is no doubt that he will be on the ticket and in November 2024, we will have a repeat of 2020. Biden will win over the republican representative. What I can't predict is that in the plethora of trials that trump could prove that he had broken the laws and could be facing jail time, or at least be convicted of those crimes, which will push everything towards the SCOTUS and we will have a collective breath holding contest as we need someone anyone to make a decision.

Sorry, call me an optimist, in that too many independent and law abiding citizens will not vote for a convicted felon regardless of how many lies trump will say to the public. Too many people follow the laws and even if they do not agree with the verdict on personal biases, that they will not let a convicted criminal preside over this country.

The real question is, if trump does loose in 2024, will he run again, if he has not been convicted and either through laws or possible incarceration, run again? Will he able to hold it together to form even haf coherent sentences to be the oldest person to run for the presidency?

TL;DR, trump will convicted of something, he will push and delay any of those verdicts till after election day, but still won't win.

[Tunaman]

And John, once again, I ask you to show me how and where I am wrong, yet you never do. Your ineptitude only proves me more correct, each and every time you punt on the question.




Well my rule is that till someone stops saying stupid things, then I will shut up. But my faith is never really tested



Classic strawman. Don't look at me, look at everything else that the other person is doing....

In this context, I was only talking about US history, not the world. It is far easier to confine the history lesson to the 250 years as a cojntry(or 400+ years as a colony). So if you want an in depth report on slavery, starting from first established countries/people to today, that will take a few days to create.



You are wrong. Economies that live by one product or service, in this case slavery, are shortsighted and die quickly, as they cannot sustain changes(like supply and demand) as well as outside factors. Slavery in the ancient world was an accepted practice till it wasn't. And even as the establishment of codified countries that had a ruling bodies to govern them, slavery was never the principle of their economic systems.




But 2 wrongs doesn't make it right. While the act of slavery was not necessarily against the rules and laws of one country does not give it a pass regardless of who's colour skin one is. One could argue that only because the white man established the commodity of slavery did those dark skinned people sell other people into slavery. And no one is trying dismiss the various repugnant act of slavery, genocide and terrorism, but it is a disservice to those acts when they are not the focus of this conversation.



Lol... deflect much?

No, I am merely confining this towards US history and not world history. The mere fact that I bring up and fully acknowledge that white people have done and continue to do horrible things to people that are not the same skin tone, paints me as the opposite of a racist. I want this country to accept that it has done genocides(trail of tears, and general treatment to the native peoples that were here before) and enslaved other people. That is our history, as dirty as it is. But we must accept that and move on, learning from those mistakes, not bury them and never look upon them.



Trail of tears? Fort Pillow? Manifest Destiny? Jim Crowe laws? Fire bombing of Dresden and Tokyo? The Tuskeegee syphilis experiment?

When you support people who ban books, outlaw gender identity, or rail against the idea of Crutucal race theory(CRT), you are perpetuating the same things as you falsely accuse me of doing. Banned books are the best books. I don't care what gender you wish to be, as you life doesn't effect me in how I live mine. The US has done horrific things to its own people, slavery is but one of them.

Dye your hair purple and scream at the sky. That is where you want to wind up anyway so just DO IT! Little kids do not need to see your pedophile porn.

[maniacmechanic]

I've seen videos with people stating their opinions, that from what they see happing, they don't think there will be a presidential election in 2024.

What are your thoughts on the probability that, if they can't take Trump down and stop him, they will pull martial law ?

What say you ?

Hmmn , If the courts don't somehow ( doesn't look probable ) keep Trump from runnin, I wouldn't put anything past them, but they surely don't want to Martyr him

[Nobody]

Hmmn , If the courts don't somehow ( doesn't look probable ) keep Trump from runnin, I wouldn't put anything past them, but they surely don't want to Martyr him

Unlike what the gop is doing, pick someone and try to pin a crime on them. The normal way you do things is to find the crime and follow it back to who and where it came from. The simple fact that, while everyone is presumed innocent, by shear dint of the odds that he will be found guilty something. Now, what I really think is that he will be found guilty of something serious but will get a nice sweetheart plea deal to avoid jail time and to quietly walk away, never to run or comment on any political office again. So basically, his time in politics will be done. Whether he takes it or not, is a good question, but I really do not see him coming out of this clean. I very much feel that someone, to save their own skin will turn on him.

[going_home]

If you really think he will give up and walk away you must've been asleep 2016 to 2020.

What ever they charge him with, it will just go to scotus and get reversed.

They will have to assinate him to get him to go away....

[maniacmechanic]

Unlike what the gop is doing, pick someone and try to pin a crime on them. The normal way you do things is to find the crime and follow it back to who and where it came from. The simple fact that, while everyone is presumed innocent, by shear dint of the odds that he will be found guilty something. Now, what I really think is that he will be found guilty of something serious but will get a nice sweetheart plea deal to avoid jail time and to quietly walk away, never to run or comment on any political office again. So basically, his time in politics will be done. Whether he takes it or not, is a good question, but I really do not see him coming out of this clean. I very much feel that someone, to save their own skin will turn on him.

LMAO ,, So just attempting to prosecute the opposition has grown in vogue ,, when just accusing the enemy , and running kangaroo courts, means they are guilty ,,,,,,,,,,, seems it doesn't work that way for the leftist progressive Liberals ,,,,,,,,,

[maniacmechanic]

that last statement would make him a Martyr ,,,, they don't wanna do that

[Nobody]

If you really think he will give up and walk away you must've been asleep 2016 to 2020.

What ever they charge him with, it will just go to scotus and get reversed.

They will have to assinate him to get him to go away....

So when you threaten, nee promise to remove the courts, get rid of those forms of government, do you really think they would want to listen to those arguments? People who have lifetime positions, do not want to support a person who would remove their lifetime position.

Plus, if there are no possible indication of malfeasance in any of the trials, then the appeals will be dismissed and the jury's rule in a conviction will be seen to. That is where you just won't believe. Because you have been told lies at every turn that this is wrong, the witch trial defense and it goes up in smoke.

You are correct(and misread me). He will not just walk away, quietly. What he will be is forced to walk away, by threat of jail time, or if you are an absolutist, by execution from treasonous acts(trying to keep secret documents and refusing to turn them over).

So, of you were to face, basically life in prison, if convicted, or a plea to walk away and never engage in any politics again. What would you choose, and there is no 3rd option?

LMAO ,, So just attempting to prosecute the opposition has grown in vogue ,, when just accusing the enemy , and running kangaroo courts, means they are guilty ,,,,,,,,,,, seems it doesn't work that way for the leftist progressive Liberals ,,,,,,,,,

You do realize that in order to get warrants for arrest. 1) you have to commit a crime. 2) a grand jury of normal citizens has to say yes to that warrant. 3) you have a trial and await verdict. Now, either trump & company have some really terrible lawyers to not have this thrown out before it starts, or maybe there is enough evidence to prove that he and others broke the laws.

A kangaroo court would have been started and done with by now. A kangaroo court would not play by the laws of the country, nor would we hear about it, as it would not be public, or as public as some of these have been so far.

So tell me how many times Biden or the White House has said anything about trump and his trials? How many times has the DOJ come out and said anything about them? None, because whomever you listen to, keeps lying to you to the truth of the matter, that your political deity has broken the laws of this country and to put him on a pedestal, they must not criticize anything he has done because having a contrary opinion is not allowed because of ideology and to hell with the truth.

[going_home]

https://dailycaller.com/2023/11/17/trump-2024-conviction-legal-attacks/