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Trump won 2024. It's not hard to say. I don't have to like it and I think that he will burn down the US.
But who won in 2020, John? Who Lost in 2020? It is history, so it should be easy to find out, but I just want to see you write it out. So come on, you can admit that your pick lost the election, correct?Comment
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According to the history book Joe Biden won the election in 2020. Best I can tell, he did little with it except undue Trumps EOs, even the ones that did good for everyone. It was truly out of spite which is petty. Trump has done some of the same. I guess this is the game presidents play. Oh well!
So, when are you moving out of the US since according to you, it is doomed. Why not move to Canada like all the other cry babies?
It would be appropriate.Last edited by Loguzzzzzz; 02-06-2025, 04:33 PM.......You know you want one!!Comment
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Ok, I'll give you half a point. You did say Biden won the election but didn't say trump lost it. That is a lot more than most can say about it.According to the history book Joe Biden won the election in 2020. Best I can tell, he did little with it except undue Trumps EOs, even the ones that did good for everyone. It was truly out of spite which is petty. Trump has done some of the same. I guess this is the game presidents play. Oh well!
So, when are you moving out of the US since according to you, it is domed. Why not move to Canada like all the other cry babies?
It would be appropriate.
Executive orders are meaningless, to a point. They are how and by what way the admin chooses to run things. It is very common for a president to supercede and undue the previous admins EOs, as people will do things differently. As the EOs are not legislation, nor are they binding, they can be as simple as stating that this ad.in will use black ink. So everyone should get rid of their blue pens. Not necessarily life changing. Likewise, a new president t can also sign an EO that the old admin put in place, but change it only for ego. So the EOs are just like the number of birthday candles on your cake.
Never said I would leave the country. Canada is too cold, in general, but the prices of eggs would be a defining factor to that. If only I could secure season tickets at the forum to watch Les Habitans. I would prefer Ireland or France, if truth be told. Besides, if trump wants to make Canada the new state, then I still wouldn't get away from him, now would i?Comment
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NJ is where you should stay, it suits you.
A whole state where a great part of the people are afflicted with TDS.
They have their own walls, no left turns, 2nd amendment hating cops, pretty country though, I'll give you that .
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/202...court-rejects/Last edited by going_home; 02-07-2025, 08:46 AM.
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Why you keep posting untrue BS?
Executive Orders state mandatory requirements for the Executive Branch, and have the effect of law.
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Well, cause the only branch of government that can pass laws is the legislative branch. Mandatory doesn't mean law.
Civics 101: anyone can propose a law in bill form
The legislation, i.e. Congress votes on making that bill law.
The judiciary, rules on the legality of said bill/law
The president signs that bill into law.
No where does it say that an EO is a law, as that would be ludicrous.
Here is some school house rocks for you to chew on.
So Gary, I don't know what they did in Canada, where you came from, but that is how it works here.Comment
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By that argument, Bidens EOs shutting down the border wall or the remain in Mexico were not law.
Yet when New Mexico tried to put up their own barriers they were told to take it down. When Texas tried putting barriers in the Rio Grande, they faced lawsuits by the Biden admin.
Whether you like it or not, Executive Orders/Actions carry enough weight to bring legal action against those who violate it or just refuse to adhere.
According to you there was no "law" broken, simply because Executive Action is not law. It's not up to you to decide that ~ You are no sovereign to ignore protocol for the sake of argument.
Much like Biden's "28th Amendment", the whole "Sovereign Citizen" ruse doesn't work.
I did like Trumps order today supporting the 2nd Amendment. Pam Bondi is off to a great start; the Epstein client list may come out; even Adam Schiff may be facing allegations.
The whole USAID debacle, that while they did some good things there was a lot of waste. Did Chelsea Clinton really receive 84 million dollars? More to come in that disclosure, I guess.
But I actually stopped in to comment on what I consider a threat bigger than local politics. You guessed it, vulcanism and plate tectonics.
I doubt many have seen what's going on in the Aegean Sea. This guy sort of compiles what's been going on the past weeks in that area.
His use of Astrology charts gave me pause, but they were presented as astrological alignments and without any esoteric meaning other than tidal forces.
The point is, that it has been confirmed that these earthquakes are occurring, increasing in frequency and amplitude at an unprecedented rate in an area that has recently been considered dormant.
I won't say more, but when the Planet starts shaking like a dog shedding fleas it makes politics look like small potatoes.
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As if to punctuate my previous remarks, this happened since and is closer to home.
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By that argument, Bidens EOs shutting down the border wall or the remain in Mexico were not law. and neither was trump's orders to build it. It swings both ways
Yet when New Mexico tried to put up their own barriers they were told to take it down. When Texas tried putting barriers in the Rio Grande, they faced lawsuits by the Biden admin. federal law trumps state law, or in this case the state cannot act above what the federal government requires
Whether you like it or not, Executive Orders/Actions carry enough weight to bring legal action against those who violate it or just refuse to adhere. it isn'tup to me, as that is how the laws on EOs are. But in case of legal action, it might not be against the EO but other actual laws.
According to you there was no "law" broken, simply because Executive Action is not law. It's not up to you to decide that ~ You are no sovereign to ignore protocol for the sake of argument. according to how and what the EO constitutes it is not law.
Much like Biden's "28th Amendment", the whole "Sovereign Citizen" ruse doesn't work.
I did like Trumps order today supporting the 2nd Amendment. Pam Bondi is off to a great start; the Epstein client list may come out; even Adam Schiff may be facing allegations. allegations against a republican are unjust and persecution, but allegations against a democrat is justice observed? That's a very myopic way of looking at things and laws
The whole USAID debacle, that while they did some good things there was a lot of waste. Did Chelsea Clinton really receive 84 million dollars? More to come in that disclosure, I guess.what does Chelsea Clinton have to do with anything? Does going after the children of your supposed political enemies really matter?
But I actually stopped in to comment on what I consider a threat bigger than local politics. You guessed it, vulcanism and plate tectonics.
I doubt many have seen what's going on in the Aegean Sea. This guy sort of compiles what's been going on the past weeks in that area. trump is all about America first. How dare you even consider things happening halfway around the world
His use of Astrology charts gave me pause, but they were presented as astrological alignments and without any esoteric meaning other than tidal forces.
The point is, that it has been confirmed that these earthquakes are occurring, increasing in frequency and amplitude at an unprecedented rate in an area that has recently been considered dormant.
I won't say more, but when the Planet starts shaking like a dog shedding fleas it makes politics look like small potatoes.
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As if to punctuate my previous remarks, this happened since and is closer to home.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/to...5882713e&ei=50
So yea. You may not how I interpret the EOs, but it is also how the government views them. This is not anything personal, just that you sometimes can't have your cake and eat it too. While Trump and/or Musk do their darnedest to literally dismantle the government all in the effort of "efficiency," you don't get to have it all.Comment
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Security clearances gone, the can no longer enter federal buildings...
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/202...letitia-james/
Once again, they are playing checkers while he is playing chess.Comment
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"USAID Helped Dems Steal 2020 Election by Funding Wuhan Lab That Created COVID, the Ultimate Excuse for Illegal Election Tampering"
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/202...-funding-wuhan
Doug, you are one of the very few that believes 2020 was fair and real, IE see 2024 results.Comment
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The gateway pundit? You are believing that rag over, idk, foxnews?
You see, in chess, you make moves far in advance of your opponent so that each and nearly every move is covered. It's not chess when you say fire a bunch of people who have protections against such acts. It is merely the fact that the courts don't move as fast as a pink slip, but it still doesn't equate to chess.
2016: trump won fair election
2020: Trump lost, apparently massive fraud and corruption
2024: Trump won, fair election
Nope, the only thing I see is a pattern of when someone loses, it's not their fault.
While you can make any claim that you want, you kinda need evidence to back up those claims in court. Trump had his time in the courts and had no evidence to back up the claims.
You just don't want to admit that your choice, your pick, your personification of what you think is right in the world, actually, emphatically, and legally lost. You see, trump cannot admit when he is wrong as that would destroy the mythos of what he exposes, as admittance of being wrong would destroy that. So he can never be wrong, he can never admit fault, and everything he does is the best.
Not only has he shown that, even in the 1st term how he went through how many staff and cabinet positions? Trump never picked the wrong person, yet if trump did pick the right people, then he would never had to replace them.
The fact that more people in his circle are just made up of yes men, remora(people attached in hopes of bettering themselves through an individual), and those that do believe. Trump doesn't hear no, he doesn't face opposition, cause they don't want to face an 80y/o man throwing a temper tantrum like a 5 year old, when he does.
Biden was old and at the end he hit as much as he missed, but he wasn't an embarrassment. Unlike some who think that 49.8% of the popular vote is such a crushing win. Which if what I heard, was the smallest margin EVER for presidential winner. Trump did win, but it wasn't as great as you think.Comment
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You keep repeating that. And I'll keep telling you that it's patently false.
Trump had no time in court. Zero. Every time He tried, each Judge would find some excuse to avoid litigating a case that could erode public confidence in the election process.
Trump had the evidence (probably still does) yet none of it was even allowed to be demonstrated in any court.
Kind of a moot point now that he's back in office, and possibly low on his priority list during His first 100 days at least.
But speaking of Judges, how about his honorable Judge Paul Engelmayer? Did he actually order the destruction of evidence ahead of a scheduled hearing?
This guy claims it's true, with his own evidence.
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not a lawyer, but maybe the so called evidence was improperly gathered and if used would be biased, or poisonous to the proceedings. Maybe there is an actual law that needs to followed, so all parties can have a fair trial and that evidence is inadmissible. I wouldn't listen to some low rent youtube channel but an actual lawyer. Also, musk is not a government official and thus has no actual power. So, like all the supposed evidence gathered for the 2020 election, let the lawyers handle thisComment
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