Ram Cummins Recall

[going_home]

Almost a one million Ram truck Cummins recall.

This is like the Volkswagon diesel debacle.

When the vehicles were made legal they lost performance.

Probably will happen in this case also.

Lots of disappointed Ram owners.....

[Nobody]

Well dodge does mean "to avoid"....

[maniacmechanic]

This is rewriting " law " (some call it Raisin the Bar,) with no grandfather clause ,,, " Law " in which they have no authority to write, So says the Supreme Court.
And their ' LAW " is just a regulation, written by the EPA lawyers And they can do this to ANY Company they choose to and can Selectively enforce any law/regulation they decide to write

https://www.npr.org/2022/06/30/1103595898/supreme-court-epa-climate-change

[going_home]

https://www.post-journal.com/news/to...0three%20years.

Apparently the fix is just a software update, but what kind of a hit will performance take, that's the question....

[going_home]

Well dodge does mean "to avoid"....

Actually its been Ram now for years, and this is all on the engine manufacturer, Cummins, not Ram.

But I digress, I'm a Powerstroke guy....

[Nobody]

Actually its been Ram now for years, and this is all on the engine manufacturer, Cummins, not Ram.

But I digress, I'm a Powerstroke guy....

Depending upon the year power-chike, I mean powerstroke. What is a 13 letter word for a manure spreader?

International(the originator of the powerstroke)

[Nobody]

This is rewriting " law " (some call it Raisin the Bar,) with no grandfather clause ,,, " Law " in which they have no authority to write, So says the Supreme Court.
' LAW " is just a regulation, written by the EPA lawyers And they can do this to ANY Company they choose to and can Selectively enforce any law/regulation they decide to write
https://www.npr.org/2022/06/30/11035...climate-change

Government sets mandates. Congress puts them into law. The car companies met those laws, so they can make and sell products.

Heaven forbid you get cars that are unsafe(Ford Pinto and Chevy Corvair), that can pass anything but a gas station and just fall apart the moment you drive off the lot.

Regulations and laws spur innovation, making things better for the companies and the consumers. Air bags, seat belts, crumple zones, better economy, better performance; the list goes on in regards to those lawyers and their pesky mandates and regulations.

[knownothingmags]

Government sets mandates. Congress puts them into law. The car companies met those laws, so they can make and sell products.

Heaven forbid you get cars that are unsafe(Ford Pinto and Chevy Corvair), that can pass anything but a gas station and just fall apart the moment you drive off the lot.

Regulations and laws spur innovation, making things better for the companies and the consumers. Air bags, seat belts, crumple zones, better economy, better performance; the list goes on in regards to those lawyers and their pesky mandates and regulations.

yeah government did great with the gas can

[going_home]

Depending upon the year power-chike, I mean powerstroke. What is a 13 letter word for a manure spreader?

International(the originator of the powerstroke)

Not so fast genius.

While International Harvester made the first diesel engines in Ford medium duty trucks, in 1994 the name PowerStroke came as Navistar was making Fords diesel engines.

Today they are made by Ford as is in my 2023 Superduty.

[Loguzzzzzz]

International Harvester is Navistar....and we have Richard Nixon to thank for the EPA.
Just sayin'

[maniacmechanic]

Government sets mandates. Congress puts them into law. The car companies met those laws, so they can make and sell products.

Heaven forbid you get cars that are unsafe(Ford Pinto and Chevy Corvair), that can pass anything but a gas station and just fall apart the moment you drive off the lot.

Regulations and laws spur innovation, making things better for the companies and the consumers. Air bags, seat belts, crumple zones, better economy, better performance; the list goes on in regards to those lawyers and their pesky mandates and regulations.

OK show me ,, where EPA Regulation is written and voted on by Congress ,,

[maniacmechanic]

and BTW Cummins is owned by Komatsu now

[Nobody]

OK show me ,, where EPA Regulation is written and voted on by Congress ,,

Any law must pass through congress to be voted on. That is how laws are made or put on the books, as it were.

[maniacmechanic]

Any law must pass through congress to be voted on. That is how laws are made or put on the books, as it were.

that the Whole Freakin Point ,,,, They rule by Regulation , NOT Law ,,, these are AL Regulations , that need not be ran thru congress, Like Laws do, and when they know they can't get environmental law passed, the POTUS can use an EO to get around the Law Making process

" EPA is called a regulatory agency because Congress authorizes us to write regulations that explain the technical, operational, and legal details necessary to implement laws. Regulations are mandatory requirements that can apply to individuals, businesses, state or local governments, non-profit institutions, or others.

" A number of laws serve as EPA's foundation for protecting the environment and public health. However, most laws do not have enough detail to be put into practice right away.
EPA is called a regulatory agency because Congress authorizes us to write regulations that explain the critical details necessary to implement environmental laws. In addition, a number of Presidential Executive Orders (EOs) play a central role in our activities. "

https://www.epa.gov/

[Nobody]

that the Whole Freakin Point ,,,, They rule by Regulation , NOT Law ,,, these are AL Regulations , that need not be ran thru congress, Like Laws do, and when they know they can't get environmental law passed, the POTUS can use an EO to get around the Law Making process

But here is the rub. The EPA is an agency of this government. Though regulations are not laws, as they can change faster than the laws can keep up with. Whether by new data, change in administrations or whim of congress; it is still a governing body that oversees that aspect of our country.

But what is the problem here? Is it that you don't like clean water, products that don't poison the ground, or air that is unbreatheable, or you just don't understand the basic fact that while you think you want to be free of governmental meddling, even though unless you live off the grid, that it shouldn't effect you?