Civil War/ Confederate Flag Continuation

[obsolete898]

From what I have seen in the military there are alot of people that fly the Confederate flag. These are people I work and converse with. For the most part the people that fly the flag are racist. This is why us yankees(which I'm called by the same people that fly the Confederate flag) see it as a rasicst symbol because alot of the people flying the flag are racist.

Perfect example go over to PBN and read some of RebelTillDeath3's posts and you'll see what I mean.

[tsc]

Well, with PBN you have to expect stupidity..

There is absolutely nothing about the confederate flag that implies whomever flies it is racist. I hate to add to a stereotype, but the redneck racists are often ig'nant too. While they may live in the south, I'd doubt them being able to tell you much about the civil war other than it was "tryin 'ta let DIXIE have er slaves and not let 'ta yanks take us over!!! SOUTHERN PRIDE!!" Etc. ( )

As the american flag represents the history of the states, the union jack represents the history of the southern states. While some people may see this as racially motivated, it isn't! That's why there needs to be more people informing the racists who use this flag as a beacon that it has nothing to do with racism or slavery.

[obsolete898]

Well it's all about perception. I know it isn't racialy motavated, but most people think that it is. Just like the Nazi symbol(I'm not even gonna try to spell it) is a Budist symbol meaning welcome(just turned on it's side). You can't use a symbol that charged with emotion and not expect some hoopla.

It's about perception plain and simple. I have a maltese cross tattoed on my neck, and many people have asked about it(thinking I'm a Nazi or a memeber of any other racist group). Now I can tell everyone in the world that it's a germanic symbol for freedom, but people will associate it with what they know of it. That being one of the symbols of the Third Riech.

Now I'm in no way affiliated with any Nazi organization, hell I'm polish that really wouldn't work. I do know that I will catch flac for it but I'm prepared and I know it will happen.

[-J�ker-]

ok i want to start by saying that both sides of my family are from the south so im 99.9% sure i have a ancestor that fought for the south evern thouh i have researched that i have researched the American Revolutionary war and i do have a ancestor that fought in it... and lived in Tennesee and he got a LARGE bit of land for fighting to but thats beside the point

you cant hide the fact that there are more southern racist people than any other geographic area

im a redkneck,hick,hillbilly etc call me that all you want to that doesnt offend me im PROUD of my heritage so why should me calling a northner a yankee be an insult? take pride in your heritage somtimes its all you have

rios since when is standing up for what you thought was right is BAD? the people of the southern states where being told to stop their way of lifestyle how would you feal if i told you you coudnt make a living anymore how would you feal when you lost a war and everything you had was destroyed

Lincoln could have avoided the war he could have just let the southern states leave the union but he provoked them

this war is never going to stop being argued over because you cant stop people from believing they are right the north thinks they were right the south think they were right now its 2002 and we are arguing over the misrepusentoin (sp?) of the CONFEDERATE (not rebel) battle flag or the navy flag people have no idea what these flags are they are just flying the darn things... a true person that is trying to honor our heritage whould fly the 3rd national 2nd national 1st national bonnie blue and then the battle and naval flags.... the racist people probaly dont know about more than one CONFEDERATE flag and probaly call it a "rebel" flag which calling it that shows ABSOULUTELY NO RESPECT and most people who have southern hweritage and cherish it will take that as an insult

another thing rios there is no arguement for flying a Nazi flag because they werent fighting for their rights they trying to conquer the world..... this thread can and most likely will last forever unless it gets closed which it most likely will

[-J�ker-]

obsolete thats funny cause the hostory said the swastika was and native american symbol meaning good luck and many native americans were murdered raped etc etc for it... wonder whats up with that if your right

[cphilip]

Ok that pretty much does it...going a bit to far....

Fact is there is still hostility. Mostly from one side not willing to see the others side and neither side not wanting to admit the faults of the other. Fact was it took both sides to disagee and it resulted in a war niether side actually won as we can see. Hopefully more time will heal. I realy hope that. But now we are united in a struggle to survive from jealots that will destroy us if we do not unite. And we WILL unite and go on. Let's forgive and move on. We need to. But let's not forget what we should have learned. Fighting amongst ourselves leaves us behind and does us no good...and PAINTBALL IS GOOD!



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