moral dilema here...

[warpfeedmod]

What would you do if a "friend" (and I use the term loosely now) owed you $1300 and you had his/her paypal password and could easily send yourself the money?

This "friend" doesn't return calls for the past month, doesn't reply to emails, and I never see them online on ICQ anymore. I've left numerous messages for this person on their mothers voicemail, I havn't said that he owes me money, but I've just said that it's urgent that he return my call.

The question I pose is this, seeing as this "friend" doesn't return calls or emails or IMs, I'm guessing he no longer wants to be my "friend". Do I go into his paypal account and send myself the $1300 and log out and never hear from him again? I can't take it up with police really because I paypaled him the money and there's no proof there was supposed to be any transaction.

I am temped to transfer the money, and then leave him a voicemail telling him since he didn't do it I took the liberty of doing it for him and leaving it at that. If he chooses to return the call then I can have it out with him, if not then I Guess I get my money back? My question is, can he do anything to me to say I "stole" the mony from him?

[LawFox32]

does he live near you?, can you go kick his butt, call his mom and tell her that he owes you money and that you are going to call the police if the money is not returned, but no don't do the Paypal thing, it will probably get you in trouble

[Mango]

threaten to take them to small claims court. so long as you know where this friend lives, you can contact the authorities close to him and have some sort of action taken. Most times you can get something done that way.

[warpfeedmod]

I'm in Illinois, he's in Connecticut.

I just sent an email to two of his friends and asked that they have him contact me.

Is small claims court really worth $1300 or would it cost me more to deal with calling the authorities there and getting all this straightend out.

I've been more then civil about this whole thing, I've accepted his excuses and all, but now to not return calls after a month is one thing. I went so far as to leave voicemails pretty much every day for a week a while back. I didn't say what they were about, just that I needed him to call me.

[warpfeedmod]

edit: Okay I just checked my paypal records, it's actually $1500, one payment for $1200, and another for $300.

I can see the reasoning behind not going into paypal and sending it from his account to mine, I guess that's not an option.

Is small claims court really worth $1500? I mean what do I have aside from teh paypal records. Can I take it up with paypal? I mean they have his info as far as bank aco**** info etc..

[Will Wood]

Do it. It is your money, after all. If there is a major problem and he needed that money, and was going to give you yours back latter, make him sign a contract and give it back.

[EsPo]

would the round trip plain ticket from illinois to connecticut cost more than 1500$? say it cost 1000(just bear with me) would seeing him all bloodied up be worth 500$. i think it would

[Mango]

It may take a while, but if you file a complaint with the authorities and can give them ample proof that he owes you the money, then they can help you and it won't cost you a thing. But, if you want to just take it out then do what you see fit. I'm just saying, going through the LEGAL channels is always your safest bet.

[Thordic]

I'm not going to tell you WHAT to do, but I'll tell you what to do if you choose a particular course of action.

Sending yourself the money from PayPal wouldn't be particularly "legal", so you should be careful about that approach if you go that route.

Do it through a proxy server (there are a few available online) if possible, or at the least a public computer, and do NOT leave him a voicemail admitting your guilt in the matter.

[magman007]

thordic, you are the most evil person i know!

Dude, if you are going to do it, why would you give him recorded evidence that you did it? that is asking for you to go to jail, and never see that money again. also, may i ask waht you bought? i know it inst my business, i was just wondering

[pbstu]

i wouldnt suggest going thru a proxy or anything, unless you can find one that really is annonymous, cause almost all proxys keep records and stuff, and all the cops have to do is follow the ip's back to you, and then your busted. now whether the cops can be bothered to that and whether theyre intelligent enough to do it is another matter.


stu.

[dansim]

well for the right amount i could do a road trip and "re arrange" his schedule, so he can see fit to contact you im in cape cod man, only 3 hours

[Snewk]

Dansim sounds like one of those mafia guys that does kneecappings and such for a small amount of money.


Don't just take it out of his paypal account, I know I couldn't do it to anyone I know or don't know. See if you can contact one of those friends and have them talk to him about it. Push comes to shove go to small claims court and get your money.

[paint king]

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I think you know the answer about the paypal thing. Although it seems tempting it is not the moral thing to do.

First try and get ahold of his parents. If that fails then file some sort of charge.

Lastly if it really comes down to it. Although i am not condoning it if it comes to this then yes take it out of his paypal account (although it shouldnt go that far). Just make sure you do it carefully.

[Thordic]

Dansim lives in Cape Cod, I live one town over from where Tony Soprano's house is. Come on, really now...