A JT Excellerator 6.0

[shartley]

Originally posted by ChaMeaLeoN
ok well, spyders suck. end of that, ask anyone there the cheapest guns, ur wife and son probly dont even know how to shoot a gun, and i would never buy a spyder, i wouldnt take one if u GAVE it to me. JT's also suck, so now im looking at a m3 patriot, a PMI PROe, and the impulse

[ChaMeaLeoN]

yes i said that at first, but i noticed it was kinda rude, or i was being a dick, well im going to be playing in tourney's soon, so thats what i mean spyders just suck there not reliable.

[FooTemps]

Actually, spyders are fairly reliable if you take care of them.

I myself have a mag and I didn't spend a penny for it. I'm serious... NOT ONE CENT... See how cheap mags can get? They can be as cheap as free*. Yes, lots of guns can go free as prizes or as gifts or as inspiriation.

Also, about your choice, you seem to have a HUGE gap between your choices. I mean, m3 patriot, pro-e, and other SPYDER CLONE blowbacks are extremely pale in comparison to the impulse. I notice you don't seem to want a mech gun either. I would suggest looking into one if you budget is 400. I mean, a mag setup can be nice at 400... 275 for the gun and 100 for the nitro and 25 for whatever. Same goes for the cocker. You can get a nice bottomline nitro setup for a cocker for 400 also.

*Thanks to tunaman AGAIN. Please, don't try to get a free gun from anyone as a way to get a free gun. I was tired of being held back by using rentals only... Sometimes parents are a pain but keep pursuing paintball.

[Sinnet]

and by the way, the m3 patriot and the pmi proe have the same design as *gasp!* SPYDERS!

[RetroEclipseMan]

For some reason I think that he[ChaMeaLeoN] needs to become a little more open minded when it comes to this stuff, especially if he comes here and asks for the opinions of people that have been playing the game for quite some time and have done the research and know what the heck they're talking about.I mean he's probably seen some spyders at his field that have sucked but that's probably because they weren't taken care of but for the most part for what they cost they're a pretty decent gun. I mean there's a few guys at my field that sport spyders and these guys are pretty good players and I've never seen them have a problem with them.Still if i had a choice between a stock mag and a spyder I would go with the mag of course.

[-=|MystryMoisture|=-]

I find it funny he hates spyders, but wantes a JT sear tripper-spyder-blowback-clone (same applies to pirahnas and dlack draguns, patriots etc) This guy obviously doesnt know what hes talking about, or ANYTHING about paintball markers, but wants to sound like he does...poor guy. And YES, chameleon, THEY ARE ALL IDENTICAL IN DESIGN TO SPYDERS well, mostly, so...bye

[yeahthatsme]

i already have a tippy 98, i have a all american barrel, and venturi bolt on it, but the tippmann's are a good beginner gun, but are not very great, as for the spyders they are the worst gun ever, all they do is break and i would never get one, as of now im tryin to sell my tippmann, and the cockers like u said, are very complicated, to much to deal with worrying about the timing then getting used to the firing. im kinda looking for an electro

yeah thats why a team shooting all tippmans keeps winning.....

and anyways with $400 you can make a tippy electric and put a low pressure kit in and probably get a cheap hpa tank. dont dis what you dont know. you obviously dont know what your talkin about and are just flaming now cus you cant make an intelligent comeback.



i have owned 2 spyders and have had no problems at all. maybe their not the best but for the price their hard to beat.

[joeyjoe367]

Originally posted by ChaMeaLeoN
yes i said that at first, but i noticed it was kinda rude, or i was being a dick, well im going to be playing in tourney's soon, so thats what i mean spyders just suck there not reliable.

Belive it or not, the whole Excellerator Series are all Spyder-Clones with silly goodies attatched to 'em. Electro-blowbacks are a Joke, In my oppinion.

...now I agree that you probably shouldn't go for a spyder, simply because of the fact that you own a model-98. They're about the same grade of guns, once again IMO.

Seeing that your budget is around $400, I think either a classic mag or an impulse would be a good choice for you. Both can run Co2 if you cannot afford a good nitrogen system.

oh... and btw... and be a bit more open minded. Question Everything; Even your own opinions.

...and why is this in friendly corner again?

[cris8762]

If you get a impulse, the first things you should get are a solenoid optimizer (most likely a tapeworm because they're cheapest and still work good) and a adjustable trigger like the New Designz blade trigger, with those 2 upgrades you will have a rocking impulse!

[HoppysMag]

Originally posted by yeahthatsme



yeah thats why a team shooting all tippmans keeps winning.....

and anyways with $400 you can make a tippy electric and put a low pressure kit in and probably get a cheap hpa tank. dont dis what you dont know. you obviously dont know what your talkin about and are just flaming now cus you cant make an intelligent comeback.



i have owned 2 spyders and have had no problems at all. maybe their not the best but for the price their hard to beat.

ok lets go by your reasoning.... almost all pros shoot cockers, so they are the best gun ever.

[ChaMeaLeoN]

yeh, i ment to say i have a 98 custom not a reg 98, yes as i said, spyders are unrelible, they break all the time and chop balls, and

Originally posted by yeahthatsme

and anyways with $400 you can make a tippy electric and put a low pressure kit in and probably get a cheap hpa tank.

i would do that but i really dont like the feel of the 98 customs or just 98's, now im for sure getting an impulse, thanx for all the feed-back

[Coaster]

let us know how it performs in your tourney, good luck!

[-J�ker-]

dude spyders are good reliabe cheap guns... i shot one (the same one to) for about a year and a 1/2 and never took it apart and cleaned it i just dropped some oil in it and went off... without spyders a lot of people would prob never started playing pb with their own gun so quit disrespecting the gun that helped me get on my feet and many others in the sport of paintball!