AO: We are back from the dead... again! After an 18 day outage, we are finally alive and well. Who knew how complicated updating software/databases from 2008 would be. I still have alot of tweaks to make, but my main goal was getting everything patched and updated to 2026.
Vbulletin 6 has changed alot since 2008 so we will have a ton of new features to dig into.
LOL Sorry I am about to raise the BS flag on that one.
BS... Bah. In disagreement with your ideas, sure. There's a difference. If I claimed BS on everything you've said that smells of it, I'd have enough to fertilize every farm in America.
Oh, so you can't put up your vampire link. OMG! I've been VIOLATED! How can I live to tomorrow! The injustice! OOH! Call my lawyer! Somebody hand me a hanky! I WANT MY VAMPIRE LINKS!!! *sob* Geez... take 2 seconds to think about what you're moaning about...
Before we all scream BLOODY MURDER!!! did you happen to notice that I did not remove anything? No action has been taken? I ASKED people to remove it. Could I have just removed it myself? Sure I could. Did I? No. Will I? If it gets ridiculous, sure.
Fallacy. Square peg - round hole. You missed the point.
I'd suggest you do a SEARCH on every post that has been editted by a moderator. Our private moderator forum is basically what we use to log our actions. It currently has 2276 posts. Oh yeah, none of the moderators get paid if you haven't forgotten... but we do the BEST we can and do a good job. We volunteer our time because we like AGD and AO... and are glad to contribute.
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Sarcasm noted.
We read a ridiculous amount of posts. We check what links we see as we get to them. We make sure that people don't sneak in links to inappropriate/adult material which has happened many times. I've even watched various videos and such that people have made links to... to make sure it's appropriate.
Now, after running into that vampire link about the 5th time... with pop ups and what not... it gets old.
And being chain-letter-like... well, you know how that goes... thus my forceful request to knock it off.
As a reminder: Friendly Corner is fair game... we do not have to have any justification for what we do in there. But of course, we let you know what we're up to as a courtesy... and because that's just how it should be.
Originally posted by Miscue
BS... Bah. In disagreement with your ideas, sure. There's a difference. If I claimed BS on everything you've said that smells of it, I'd have enough to fertilize every farm in America. [/B]
Oh, so you can't put up your vampire link. OMG! I've been VIOLATED! How can I live to tomorrow! The injustice! OOH! Call my lawyer! Somebody hand me a hanky! I WANT MY VAMPIRE LINKS!!! *sob* Geez... take 2 seconds to think about what you're moaning about...
Before we all scream BLOODY MURDER!!! did you happen to notice that I did not remove anything? No action has been taken? I ASKED people to remove it. Could I have just removed it myself? Sure I could. Did I? No. Will I? If it gets ridiculous, sure.
Fallacy. Square peg - round hole. You missed the point.
I'd suggest you do a SEARCH on every post that has been editted by a moderator. Our private moderator forum is basically what we use to log our actions. It currently has 2276 posts. Oh yeah, none of the moderators get paid if you haven't forgotten... but we do the BEST we can and do a good job. We volunteer our time because we like AGD and AO... and are glad to contribute.
Sarcasm noted.
We read a ridiculous amount of posts. We check what links we see as we get to them. We make sure that people don't sneak in links to inappropriate/adult material which has happened many times. I've even watched various videos and such that people have made links to... to make sure it's appropriate.
Now, after running into that vampire link about the 5th time... with pop ups and what not... it gets old.
And being chain-letter-like... well, you know how that goes... thus my forceful request to knock it off.
As a reminder: Friendly Corner is fair game... we do not have to have any justification for what we do in there. But of course, we let you know what we're up to as a courtesy... and because that's just how it should be.
If the page wasn't laden with hideous amounts of popups, it wouldn't be so terrible, but that kind of fake linking gets annoying fast - I could easily start linking to sites and saying things like click here to win a free emag extreme!
Obviously the links I used were not a problem, but it's easy for me to change them to some more objectionable things. I find 6 popups on one page objectionable, but obviously that's a personal thing
Your thoughts are the pernicious speculations of a sophist, quibbling to enable the weaker cause to appear the stronger. By abusing logical fallacies and faulty premises, you can 'prove' anything under the sun. You know this and should know better, but instead you carry on with reckless abandon, persuading the unwary to take your side for no purpose other than self-delight.
What I've said is invalid you say?
All [things] in (F)riendly Corner are fair (G)ame for moderators.
Some [things] in (F)riendly Corner are (V)ampire links.
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4. Fa > Ga 2 Universal Instantiation x/a
5. Fa 3 Simplification
6. Ga 4,5 Modus Ponens
7. Va * Fa 3 Commutivity
8. Va 7 Simplification
9. Ga * Va 6,8 Conjunction
10. Ga * Va 3-9 Existential Instantiation (discharge)
11. (%x)(Gx * Vx) 10 Existential Generalization a/x
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<B>Therefore, some [things] that are fair (G)ame for moderators are (V)ampire links.</B>
What I've said is valid... and I could go about with most everything I've said and break it down.
I think the problem is that you don't know what VALID even means.
I've already provided detailed explanation of why the vampire links are frowned upon. And, because they are chain-letter-like... note the word <B>'like'</B> in case you missed it... in that people finding the link are promoted to bring others to the link via fake-linking or whatever... and rack up points.
Such links will not be forcefully removed for the time being, and have not been. However, the vampire link has potential to balloon into a big nuissance because it is [Quote Fingers]chain-letter-<B>like</B>[/Quote Fingers], promotes fake links, and contains several pop-ups.
Miscue, while I certainly appreciate the job the mods here do, I also would like the opportunity as a member of AO to decide what I think is a worthwhile thread and what isn't.
I understand crap that's blatantly over the line and is breaking the forum rules needs to be trashed, but don't you think the majority of users are able to make up their own minds on threads that DON'T break the rules but may be "annoying"?
Such as This Gem from mysterymoisture and the Clearasil Crew?
Certainly a nasty thread by any account, and handled I think ably by the members here.
For additional explanation as to why deceptive links are bad, this site has gone over this topic... I'd suggest that you read it: <A HREF="http://www.myrealm.co.uk/stuff/annoy.php">Essay: "Why deceptive links are annoying."</A>
I don't think we'll be doing anything unless these vampire links go overboard. But if that happens... heads will roll. :) Counting on you guys to keep things reasonable... have fun... but don't go nuts.
Originally posted by Miscue For additional explanation as to why deceptive links are bad, this site has gone over this topic... I'd suggest that you read it: (EDITED OUT LINK.. sorry guys) Essay: "Why deceptive links are annoying."
I don't think we'll be doing anything unless these vampire links go overboard. But if that happens... heads will roll. :) Counting on you guys to keep things reasonable... have fun... but don't go nuts.
miscue that has to be the stupidest thing i have seen a moderator do some people do read these while at work and me for one thinking that a moderator was posting something worth reading wasted about 5 minutes of my time with pure unadulterated crap
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