Run DMC singer shot

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Jam Master Jay

Not a big fan of hip hop but they were pioneers in the industry, sad to see this happen.

[shartley]

One might ask the question.....

I wonder why you don't see this type of thing in other Music genres?

[Thordic]

In defense of Run DMC, they were pioneers of the industry, and came from a middle-class neighborhood in Queens.

As far as I have heard, they weren't part of the whole "gansta" scene or whatever you want to call it. When I heard last night that he had been shot and killed, it was pretty surprising to me.

Run DMC have contributed immensely to the music world, and not only for hip hop / rap. They are credited with saving Aerosmiths career when they redid Walk This Way.

I don't really think that a post about someones death is an appropriate place to criticize rap music, Sam.

[shartley]

Originally posted by Thordic
In defense of Run DMC, they were pioneers of the industry, and came from a middle-class neighborhood in Queens.

As far as I have heard, they weren't part of the whole "gansta" scene or whatever you want to call it. When I heard last night that he had been shot and killed, it was pretty surprising to me.

Run DMC have contributed immensely to the music world, and not only for hip hop / rap. They are credited with saving Aerosmiths career when they redid Walk This Way.

I don't really think that a post about someones death is an appropriate place to criticize rap music, Sam.

[Thordic]

I would be willing to bet more rock stars have died of overdoses and/or alcohol poisoning than rap stars have been murdered

It's all just a question of perspective.

[shartley]

Originally posted by Thordic
I would be willing to bet more rock stars have died of overdoses and/or alcohol poisoning than rap stars have been murdered

It's all just a question of perspective.

And I would tend to agree with you. But one is "self induced" and the other is MURDER.

And after all, we are not talking about an overdose death in this thread... are we? It is easy to brush issues aside by pointing at other issues.....

However, if this WAS about some rock star dieing of a drug overdose, I would be adressing THAT issue.... but it isn't.

[Thordic]

I think they are comparable issues.

Both are stars dying from living the lifestyle. The means of death isn't as important as the fact that they both die. IN either case, they are killed by the "lifestyle" of the genre of music they have chosen.

[shartley]

Originally posted by Thordic
I think they are comparable issues.

Both are stars dying from living the lifestyle. The means of death isn't as important as the fact that they both die. IN either case, they are killed by the "lifestyle" of the genre of music they have chosen.

Did anyone else catch that?

Thordic, you almost said exactly what I said. LOL

Yes, you can compare them, but they are not the same. The outcome of self induced death and murder ARE the same, but there is NO way you are going to convince me that the method of death or who is directly responsible are even close. One is self destructive and directly caused by the actions of the one who died, the other is caused by the action of ANOTHER.

Yes, there is a problem in both of these situations. I have never stated otherwise. But again, this thread is about the death of someone MURDERED in a music genre that shows this type of tragedy on a regular basis.... not about the death of some Rock Star who ODed.

When the next Rock Star dies of a drug overdose, I will be more than happy to talk with you about it... and you can bet that I will not bring up Rap Artists being Murdered as a comparison. I will deal with the issue, and the issue alone.

[Gotenks]

Yes....

it's a sad day for the hip hop world.

[yeahthatsme]

you might wanna check your spelling there shartley.


also, get back on topic. its kinda disrespectful to bring up how rap stars are murdered in the same topic of mourning the loss of one of the most influentual people in the business. show some respect.

as for run-dmc, my heart goes out to the family and friends. i wonder what this is all about.....

[Jonno06]

im not a real big rap fan(i actually hate it)...

but i still agree with Shartley...

its still sad to hear about him dying though...

[CoFFeY[NiTrO]]

Originally posted by shartley
One might ask the question.....

I wonder why you don't see this type of thing in other Music genres?

The guy who shot Jam Master Jay was drunk. I'm not sure if it had anything to do with gang type stuff and what not, but I get your point.

[shartley]

also, get back on topic. its kinda disrespectful to bring up how rap stars are murdered in the same topic of mourning the loss of one of the most influentual people in the business. show some respect.

The guy who shot Jam Master Jay was drunk. I'm not sure if it had anything to do with gang type stuff and what not, but I get your point.

[covadsucks]

Shartley is killin' me with the points he made. So what if the guy was drunk, alcohol only reduces inhibitions, the fact is, the guy probably would've shot JMJ anyhow. Whether it was drug related who cares, point is it's a stupid thing to have happened at all. We all make decisions as to who we are and where we associate ourselves. People need to take responsibility for their own decisions/actions and stop blaming society.

[yeahthatsme]

wow. shartley is good at making you feel stupid huh?

but it did look like you were disrespecting him. and also run-dmc was around before the whole gangsta thing came up. they kept it real and its sad that it has come to this.


they pioneered hip-hop and rock combos and are very inspirational to the music world today. if it wasnt for them hip-hop wouldnt be where it was today, and bringing up drugs and gang violence in this thread is innapropriate at best. i know you didnt mean disrespect but regardless thats how it came across and this is the wrong place for discussions on that matter. this will be my last post on the subject.

any other news on the motives and or suspects?