What do you think of Eminem

[WicKeD_WaYz]

Im writing a paper on what many would say is the most controversial rapper out there. Many people hate him because he speaks his mind and doesnt hesitate to say anything. Lots of people respect him for the same reason. I have to write a paper about both points of view. I was wondering what you guys thought of him. What do you think of his lyrics? Do you respect him?

Please, I kno there are a lot of Eminem haters out there, if your one of them please dont flame this thread. Just state the reasons why or why not you like him and what you think of his music.

thanks

[Restola]

I dont like rap.

I don't know eminem (duh) but I am very biased against anyone who acts/talks like him. For some reason I just dont find a complete lack of formal education apealing...

Maybe if I liked his music I would feel differently.

[Cliffio]

i like rap and r&b music but i hate eminem

why? i dont like his music, i dont like what it stands for and i dont like what he has said in the past, i think he is a disgrace, i also think that he is so popular with alot of kids because he is white

i have seen kids, like 11-14 year olds, run into best buy and grab the new eminem CD while there are 3 or 4 different various rap artists right next to eminem, i believe that he has the popularity because he is not a black person

i agree that not all rap music is sunshine and lolipops but eminem is the worst

[Trigger_Happy]

He has complet lack of talent! He compensates with money spent to hype his stuff. He is marketed so well, that he can do whatever he wants with his music, and still sell. he taken full advantage of this.

He also seems to have no morals. If you don't have enough respect for yourself to have some values, I don't respect you!

he has no basis for what he says, too! He plays the part of an "angry rapper" because he is paid to do it. He lives well, makes money, etc, etc......why all the whimpering eminem?

[Cliffio]

he also just got back together with his wife, remember how much he "hated" her

what a tool

[WicKeD_WaYz]

Originally posted by Trigger_Happy
he has no basis for what he says, too! He plays the part of an "angry rapper" because he is paid to do it. He lives well, makes money, etc, etc......why all the whimpering eminem?

ya thats what i dont understand.

he raps like he has some horrible life and we should all feel sorry for him and understand why hes so angry....right

[Army]

..on the other hand, I really like his music. It's different enough from the standard rap genre' to catch my jaded ear. Whatever his beef with his Mom/wife/Dad/daughter/life is his hook. His is no different than any other rapper: "life in the ghetto sucks, even though I haven't lived there for 20 years, and now have enough money to buy it from the city, but I was raised near one and now my life sucks too, since I can't spend my money fast enough on women/cars/houses/bling bling whatever/and failing music publishing companies."

I don't really like him, per se', but his tunes are fun, and the music is easier to listen to than gangster or club rap.

[pito189]

Originally posted by Trigger_Happy
He lives well, makes money, etc, etc......why all the whimpering eminem?

He lived with his mother until he was 26 years old.

I only last week learned that he is 30 years old.

EDIT: I just realized I have went over a 1000 posts. I am a PW .

[shartley]

[pito189]

From "The Way I Am"

"When a dude's gettin bullied and shoots up his school
and they blame it on Marilyn (on Marilyn).. and the heroin
Where were the parents at? And look where it's at
Middle America, now it's a tragedy
Now it's so sad to see, in upper class ci-ty
havin this happenin (this happenin)..
then attack Eminem cause I rap this way (rap this way)..
But I'm glad cause they feed me the fuel that I need for the fire
to burn and it's burnin and I have returned"

Some of his lyrics do make sense. This one has always stood out in my mind.

[oldsoldier]

They had his grandmother on a talk show recently. He has been doing rap, according to her, since he was a kid. And, for the record, he did have a bad home life, while he was young. His Gram said that she never showed any affection towards him. His music? I can take it or leave it. His video for Trailer Park Girls, or whatever, is hilarious! The tunes are catchy, and, yes, he makes tons of cash off of his bad boy image. Realize, he isnt the only one who had a rough life. He just got lucky and made it big. Personally, hero worship is a bunch of hooie. If someone idolizes him, they are seriously misled. He doesnt seem to be a very nice individual, to put it mildly. But, he is only as controversial for as long as people buy into it. Remember all the controversy with Ozzie Ozbourne? Well this is kinda going the saqme route. he will burn out soon, then what?
On another note, it seems like, whenever a white kid makes it into rap, there is controversy that follows. Vanilla Ice...need I say more? Beastie Boys..they were hated my the rap community for the longest time. When Run DMC did the song w/Aerosmith, again, frowned down upon. See a pattern here? Is this fan based, rap artist based, or media based controversy? You decide.
Do I like what he stands for? No. Do I listen to his music? Yes. Great...I lost my train of thought.

[petefol]

i dont like most of his music but he does have talent.

he's wearing an alf shirt!

[dre1919]

I like Eminem's music a lot actually, for several reasons. One, he's funny. I have a twisted sense of humor much the same as he does, so to me his lyrics seem rather amusing. Especially because he would be the first to say (and has before on record) that his lyrics are meant to be taken in jest and NOT seriously. My friends all feel the same way. Maybe we all have similar senses of humor...I don't know. But, he stands out much the same way Insane Clown Posse does in the fact they rap about drastically different things than the normal mainstream of rap. Em's got his moments where he may say a few lines like other rappers, but by and large his lyrics usually revolve around topics other "regular" rappers don't even touch.

Who raps about painkillers, trailer parks, sailors, and inspector gadget? It is this different presentation of his subject matter than the usual "Bling bling jewelry, crystal, hoes, cars, and big screen TV's" you get get with him unlike other rappers. Second, he's good at his craft. Like his musical beats or tunes, or even his content or not..the man is fast and has a very slick and complicated lyrical delivery. If you listen to rap a lot (I do) you know that there are a lot of mediocre rappers out there that think that just because two words ryhme and they end two versus with them it makes you a lyricist. Not necissarily...there can be (and I say CAN be because a lot of rappers don't take the time too or know how) a lot of work involved in setting up how your words fall together.

Listen to some of Em's songs closely..look at the word arrangement. Some of his words set up a ryhme several versus down into the song, not just the next line. They follow a flow, a pattern that adjusts to the beat and timing. Now, as far as he goes as a person...I don't know him personally, I've only seen him in the mainstream. Unfortunately, this is a bad place to try and form a good opinion about him from because most of what he does is calculated to play to his image. I think he's foolish for making so many enemies out of a lot of respected musicians when he doesn't really have too...but it keeps up his "I don't give a ...." bad boy image. Remember, Puffy was all down with the bad boy image until his close call with real jail time changed him to P. Diddy (still rating as one of the dumbest names for an entertainer yet.)

Think about Em's lyrical content as a comedian would his schtick. His "I'm opressed, poor, and have crazy relationships" is his material. It's what his whole process and music is based on so if he stopped the "whining" he would have to completely reinvent himself.

[Trigger_Happy]

Yes, he can say strings of words fast, and yes, many rappers suck worse than him.....Is it skill?

[dre1919]

That's all subjective. I say yes, but that's me.