I intensely dislike people who drink and drive

**krafty** · 12-16-2002, 01:35 PM

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**shartley** · 12-16-2002, 01:38 PM

**Remington** · 12-16-2002, 01:43 PM

What a jerk. I can't stand people that do stupid things like that. And what really irritates me is that they're too drunk to realize what they're doing so they get in a car and try to drive home but they can't because of the stupid alcohol built up in their system. Then, they get in a car accident and some innocent person gets THEIR car totalled and end up having to pay for it. Anyway. Glad to hear you and your wife are okay. How was Harry Potter?

**TooDamnSweet** · 12-16-2002, 02:01 PM

I'm glad that you and your wife are okay! I hope this guy learns his lesson!

**EsPo** · 12-16-2002, 02:05 PM

my friend died last year, the dude was on morphine, and had drank heavily earlier before

**obsolete898** · 12-16-2002, 02:30 PM

I'm glad you and your wife are ok.

I'm sorry that happened to you, but he wasn't DWI or DUI unless he is .08.

I don't want to sound out of line when this just happened to you but ranting about being hit be a drunk driver and saying his BA was only .07 is kinda funny. Not only was he not at or over the legal limit but he was probaly able to function perfectly fine. Now granted he probaly was an idiot, but he wasn't drunk.

Drinking 1 or 2 beers will put a normal person right around that area, depending on the situation. I know after drinking a 1 or 2 beers I'm perfectly able to drive.

Also if you've ever gotten pretty drunk one night and then drove somewhere the next morning then you would've probally blown .07 or higher.

Once again I'm sorry that happened to you and I'm glad both of you are not seriously hurt.

**Thordic** · 12-16-2002, 02:40 PM

I have to agree with obsolete. Even if the accident was his fault, which you said it was, blaming it on drunk driving is a mistake.

While I sympathize with anyone who is the victim of a bad driver, a .07 is NOT drunk, not even by legal standards. Legally drunk is the point where alcohol starts to inhibit your ability to drive. Most people can still function fine above the LEGAL limit, just with slower reflexes, hence the law.

Having a beer or two and then driving home is FAR from drunk driving, and the guy who hit you shouldn't be villianized for drunk driving, regardless of his SOBER driving abilities, or lack thereof.

**Xerces** · 12-16-2002, 02:42 PM

glad to hear everyone is ok.
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**personman** · 12-16-2002, 02:49 PM

That little biznatch!
Im going to try my best to be strait edge..
Yeap..
I'm glad you're ok and sorry to hear about the car

**krafty** · 12-16-2002, 03:06 PM

Originally posted by Thordic
I have to agree with obsolete. Even if the accident was his fault, which you said it was, blaming it on drunk driving is a mistake.

I didn't blame it on drunk driving. I blamed it on drinking and driving. And the police officers on the scene were in agreement that it had affected his ability to drive. The intersection was lighted, the stopsign was clearly visible, and he was familiar with the area as he lived nearby. There were no skidmarks to confirm it, but witnesses put him well over the speed limit as well. He didn't even brake. Any alcohol in your system impairs your reaction times and his statements to the police about seeing the stopsign too late confirm this. The penalty for reckless driving in Michigan is up to 90 days in jail, and I hope he gets it.

I do feel bad for whoever's car it was he was driving. It wasn't his. And it was totalled, too.

Remington,
It was pretty darn good!

**SqueegeeKid** · 12-16-2002, 03:49 PM

Drinking and driving is pathetic and there is no excuse for it.

From what i'm told (by many anti-drinking and driving ads and police officers) alcohol starts to inhibit your ability to do anything once it enters your system. 1, 2, 20 beers, it doesn't matter.

Alcohol lets you function but with slower reflexes? Maybe those quicker reflexes would have helped that moron see that stop sign. Maybe i'm a retard but i think drinking and driving under ANY circumstances is beyond comprehension. I hope that jackass gets the full extent of the law.

Sorry to hear about your vehicle, but i'm glad to hear you're alright.

**DaosBeoulve** · 12-16-2002, 03:56 PM

I'm glad you and your wife are okay.

I got hit by a drunk driver this past summer. I know the stress and trauma involved.

Good luck with everything.

I absolutely abhor drunk drivers... (I had a lot written up about them, but it basically boils down to that simple sentence. Drunk driving is one of the few things that can make me absolutely rant and rave.)

edit--But after reading a few of these other posts, I am gonna post some more. The limit is set to .08 because that is the average limit at which people start becoming impaired enough that it would hinder their driving. What's the key word out of that sentence? Average. That doesn't mean that EVERYONE is unaffected by alcohol until they hit .08 Some people with BAC of .06 don't even know which way is up or down, while some with BAC as high as .09 can seemingly still function normally.

Sure, the guy slipped through a crack in the legal system. Do any of you arguing from the legal standpoint understand alcohol's effects on the brain? Any amount of alcohol starts those effects. It's when your BAC reaches ~.08 that those effects become obvious. I have absolutely no respect for anyone that gets in a vehicle after having even half a beer. They shouldn't be driving.

Driving is a privelege, however, driving on safe roads is a right.

When the police finally catch up with the drunk that hit me (oh yeah, he ran did I mention that?), I'm going to make sure he finances me for at least a couple of years, replaces my car, and goes to jail for just as long as possible.

It honestly sickens me that you guys came in posting in defense of the sorry piece of crap that hit krafty and his wife.

**Army** · 12-16-2002, 04:11 PM

Originally posted by obsolete898
I don't want to sound out of line when this just happened to you but ranting about being hit be a drunk driver and saying his BA was only .07 is kinda funny. Not only was he not at or over the legal limit but he was probaly able to function perfectly fine. Now granted he probaly was an idiot, but he wasn't drunk.

The FACT that he had alcohol in his bloodstream, proves that he had been drinking. The FACT that he only blew .07, means that by legal standards only he was not "drunk". The FACT that he ran a stop sign, hit their car, and told Police officers that he didn't see a known local stop sign, proves that he was impaired to the point that he could not operate a vehicle safely.

Your drunk, reality drunk, and legal drunk, are all different. Just because you blow .01 under legal limit, doesn't mean your body/brain can handle liquor. Some people may not show drunkeness despite being far above the legal limit, some are wasted on 1 beer.

I was on the Jury for a 2nd degree murder trial, of a guy who had been drinking all morning, rear-ended a station wagon, and killed a 4 year old girl. Yes, I am terribly biased against drunk drivers, at ANY blood level. You would be too, if you saw the horrific pictures of that little girl...and should also be after reading Krafty's post. A stupid driver, combined with alcohol, makes for an accident looking for a victim.

I intensely dislike people who drink and drive

I intensely dislike people who drink and drive

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