Any real gun connoisseurs please look.

[AlabamaMan]

Personally for a pistol i would go with a walther P99 but for the reason that it doesn't have a safty. as far as shotguns go i can't say.

[Jack_Dubious]

"You want to die with a man's gun, not a little sissy gun like that"
-Three Amigos

I like the Glocks. I prefer the .40 and .45 models. The 9mm was ok...but ive never really shot a 9mm i liked. If I could carry a weapon everyday, I would want a Glock. (but Los Angeles county refuses to hear my pleas for a CCW!)

I personally own a Para-Ordnance P-12 (I love .45!)...great handling, light(alloy) and compact...i just wish i was a better shot.


JDub

[AutomagRT1483]

I own an AK-47 and a WW2 vintage .45 pistol.

[boggerman]

I am very happy with my Ruger .40 S&W. It has given me no problems and once I added a set of Hogue grips it sits very nicely in my hand. I also have a Taurus Raging Bull .454 Casull and am pretty happy with that as well. Hey Jack, talk about a man's gun, that is it! I have to agree that I did not care for the Glocks I have fired, but that is a matter of preference, I believe that they produce a quality product. I am afraid that I can't offer any help on the shotgun, I shoot an old Stevens pump, but my girlfriend has a Remington 1100 that I like (for an autoloader).

[ShooterJM]

Originally posted by joeyjoe367
...oh, and did I mention that the 10mm round is REALLY powerfull?

Hey another 10mm fan! How'd a miss that!?!? Yeah you gotta love that caliber! Kinda expensive just to shoot though. Need to get another one. Anybody have a 10mm they want to trade for a .45?

[Jack_Dubious]

Heh...yeah that is sweet..
Is that considered the most powerful (production, factory loaded) handgun? (or at least used to be?)

JDub

Originally posted by boggerman
I also have a Taurus Raging Bull .454 Casull and am pretty happy with that as well. Hey Jack, talk about a man's gun, that is it!

[Jack_Dubious]

Hey when you people say you want a gun for "self-defense"...what do you specifically mean? I mean are you talking about home defense or something to carry?

JDub

[BlackVCG]

10mm is an absolutely rediculous round. I think it was the BATF and FBI that used the 10mm for awhile and it just proved to be too much of a round for their officers and they developed the .40 S&W to replace it. .40 S&W IMO is the best self-defense round and .357SIG is good too, but not practical for reloading because of the bottle neck.

[ShooterJM]

Originally posted by BlackVCG
10mm is an absolutely rediculous round. I think it was the BATF and FBI that used the 10mm for awhile and it just proved to be too much of a round for their officers and they developed the .40 S&W to replace it. .40 S&W IMO is the best self-defense round and .357SIG is good too, but not practical for reloading because of the bottle neck.

Yeah, it packs a punch. I think the secret service was issued 10mm for awhile too. It's a bit much, but I don't find it much different then a .357 magnum. Never tried a 357 sig, agree on the .40 though.

[boggerman]

Hey Jack, I believe that the .454 is still the most powerful off-the-shelf round you can get, I know it packs more punch than the new .480 Ruger. I have read that the .480 splits the difference between .44 mag and the .454 Casull, however I have only messed with one at the Sportsmans Warehouse, I have not had the opportunity to shoot one yet.

I agree on the .40 S&W being a great defense round, packs good knock-down in a package that is comfortable to shoot one handed if necessary. I have been interested in the .357 Sig and I belive that there is a conversion for the pistol I shoot now, but ammo cost prevents me from doing this now, as I would just be target shooting with it anyway.

[ShooterJM]

It would appear everything I thought I knew about the 357 SIG is actually 357 magnum ballistics. So what's a 357sig? Is is like a weak 9x25?

[netjunk1e]

Originally posted by Jack_Dubious
Hey when you people say you want a gun for "self-defense"...what do you specifically mean? I mean are you talking about home defense or something to carry?

JDub

I mean self defence at home. Thats why i do not use my compensated glock because it ejects fire twards you which can blind/burn you in close quarters if you are not holding it away from your body.

And someone mentioned earlier that they cary P99 because of the last of a safty. To me, the "safties" on a glock are not really safties because they to not prevent a round from being fired when the trigger is pulled, which is what conventional safties do. Thats just my opinion. The glock's trigger safty really only prevents a round being fired by cause of a fall or jolt.

[Jack_Dubious]

Ive never shot a compensated pistol before. Does it make a lot of difference in the handling?

JDub

[ShooterJM]

Originally posted by Jack_Dubious
Ive never shot a compensated pistol before. Does it make a lot of difference in the handling?

JDub

Well I haven't noticed much difference on a straight compensator in anything less the a 9mm. It's helps a .40 a little and just helps more and more the bigger the caliber or hotter the load.

[netjunk1e]

Originally posted by Jack_Dubious
Ive never shot a compensated pistol before. Does it make a lot of difference in the handling?

JDub

Mines a .40 and i notice a difference, less rise. The other difference is you can;t aim after shooting 100 rounds or so because theres soo much carbon build up on the front sight . Other than that i like it, maybe because it looks cool too