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  • Smitty2k1
    Mag-In-My-Pants
    • Sep 2002
    • 443

    #1

    "Shuffle" Mode Hates Me

    Alright, Im officially PISSED.

    A few weeks ago I had around 400 some mp3's on winamp. Everytime I used the computer, I would listen to them in 'shuffle' mode. Eventully I realized, that I heard some songs waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more than others. This made me mad, because I went through my list and found about 20 songs Id never even listened to yet.

    So to make things worse, I got the 'Sony Mini Hi-Fi' Stero for x-mas. For thoes that do not know, you can hold 60 cd's in this beast. Anyways, I just got around to actully putting in 60 cd's. (Im reeeeeeealy lazy) So I have all 60 slots full. I put it on suffle, and what do you think happens.

    5 of the first 10 songs were from one of the two Black Sabbath cd's I own. I was pissed. I continue to listen, and find out, that I seem to only be hearing tracks from about half the cd's in there.

    The 'shuffle' mode gods hate me.

    (thought i'd vent)
  • Thordic
    AFTICA
    • May 2001
    • 5986

    #2
    In Winamp this seems to be a common problem if you keep the songs in alphabetically order.

    Use the list randomizer, then just play them straight

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    • Xerces
      more fun than being normal
      • May 2001
      • 869

      #3
      computers are unable to generate random numbers. any sequence was programmed by a human.

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      • Smitty2k1
        Mag-In-My-Pants
        • Sep 2002
        • 443

        #4
        Yeah thats what I eventully found out for winamp

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        • -Jôker-
          AOs Original JoKeR
          • Nov 2000
          • 2132

          #5
          yea shuffle SUCKS! i just enqueue the 100 sounds i wanto litsen to lol or make play lists

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          • rdb123
            i have no ear
            • Oct 2002
            • 1507

            #6
            Originally posted by Xerces
            computers are unable to generate random numbers. any sequence was programmed by a human.
            Actually, you could use a recursive function in C++, but then again, after the 1 millionth time, you MIGHT start being able to guess a certain pattern.

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            • Kevmaster
              Owners Group Div: Director
              • Oct 2001
              • 5475

              #7
              Originally posted by Xerces
              computers are unable to generate random numbers. any sequence was programmed by a human.

              Incorrect. The random integer function on the computer bases its nubmer off the internal clock's date. Seconds from 12:00AM Jan 1, 1900. That is what your rand # is based on

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              • rdb123
                i have no ear
                • Oct 2002
                • 1507

                #8
                Kev, you talking RandInt() in C++?

                If you looked in the header file, it's recursive.

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                • Smitty2k1
                  Mag-In-My-Pants
                  • Sep 2002
                  • 443

                  #9
                  Yup, its official, this thread is now 'over my head'

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                  • alkafluence
                    Slave to the Traffic Light
                    • Jun 2002
                    • 543

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Kevmaster



                    Incorrect. The random integer function on the computer bases its nubmer off the internal clock's date. Seconds from 12:00AM Jan 1, 1900. That is what your rand # is based on
                    Unless you use Java (for example)


                    I'm not under the alkafluence of inkahol that some thinkle peep I am. It's just the drunker I sit here the longer I get...

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                    • rdb123
                      i have no ear
                      • Oct 2002
                      • 1507

                      #11
                      Java.... Ewwwww....... Would rather use C# instead of anything by Sun Microsystems. Too clunky and what gives with EasyReader and EasyWriter for it???

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                      • Sparq
                        Interloper
                        • Mar 2002
                        • 730

                        #12
                        Ahhh, Pascal and C are all coming back to me now. The crummy Macs I learned on had a set "Random Seed" for each computer. It would generate the exact same number every time you referenced it. We ended up having to set the random number generators to use the random seed and the clock time...

                        Anyway, yeah - Winamp has a seriously lacking shuffle mode.
                        "I would like nothing more than to walk around
                        wearing a shirt with a giant arrow pointing
                        downwards, but I have this strange feeling
                        that most people would take it as some kind
                        of sexual suggestion rather than an attempt
                        to infer one's final destination."

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                        • gimp
                          Registered User
                          • Jan 2001
                          • 2368

                          #13
                          Computers can generate pseudorandom numbers. True randomness is virtually impossible to do on a computer, since these numbers will depend on the algorithm, and so they can't possible be random. Baseing the the seed on the clock of the computer won't help much either. It won't work because the time between calls to the generator would be essentially identical on every program invocation. Here at RPI they taught us about the linear congruntial generator. And as far as I know, it's the best way to get a 'random' number. It uses prime numbers and such, really really big ones.

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                          • Automaggin2
                            Registered User
                            • Sep 2002
                            • 2506

                            #14
                            rando.h class, but i dont think its a true randomize
                            Dub V

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                            • FreshmanBob

                              #15
                              people are starving in africa, mexican natives are oppressed, Bush is ruining the economy and making us look worse and your angry because your shuffle mode isn't playing 20 songs out of 400...

                              woooow. I feel sorry for ya man

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