American Human Shields -- Disturbing

[Link]

I must be the only one, but I do not blame them for what they are doing. In fact, I admire them that they are going to such lengths for what they believe in. They are not standing up for a murderous dictator, but trying to stop the deaths of so many people. I'm not saying I agree with thier cause, but I admire them. Maybe the end doesn't always justify the means.

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[FactsOfLife]

think there's any frogs or germans in that group?

think we'd be that lucky?

I say let them go, make a good entry for the Darwin Awards.

[oldsoldier]

Thats what I was trying to remember! The arwin Awards! HAHAHAHA!!!

[Trunnion]

link, while i respect your opinion, and i appreciate that they are standing up for what they believe in, that's not the best way to go about such a thing. if they think that the US won't drop bombs because they're there, their heads aren't in the real world. a country won't stop a war for 50 people. protesting in this way won't accomplish anything and could possibly result in their deaths. i'm not sure they've really taken all of that into account. needless to say, if they do get hurt, they have nobody but themselves to blame.

[davidb]

Perhaps these people never heard of the incident in the first Gulf War where Iraqis put a sign with "baby milk factory" written on it, in English, inside of a bombed out factory to try and make us look like bad guys (apparently some PR guys spent a little too much time out in the sun). Gulf War II shouldn't be any different. How difficult would it be for them to take these people and either stick them in buildings they know will be destroyed, or to kill them and then stick them in a building that was already destroyed?

There is a fine line between bravery and stupidity, and there is little question as to on which side these guys fall.

I don't agree that they are heroes, but I also don't agree with the idea of bombing them on purpose or using them as target practice (I'm sure a lot of that was meant half seriously at most). If you do that, in the eyes of a good number of people they become martyrs rather than traitors. How much the better to simply keep civilian casualties as low as feasible, which was the plan in the first place, thus making the bleeding-heart traitors to be fools in the public eye? They've shown an obvious willingness to die for there cause. They might not be prepared to accept the consequences of living through it.

[SGTKennedy]

id like to see them taken hostage.

[Ironmag]

I hope these protesters get attacked by the very people they are trying to help. Then they should be nominated for the Darwin Award for doing humanity a favor of ridding themselves from the human gene pool.

[nastymag]

while i am sure the US AIR Force tries to only hit military targets ...it misses sometimes.

i found this fact kinda ironic

deaths at world trade center. Over 3.500

CIVILIAN death in afghanistan due to allied bombing

Over 3.500


smart bombs arent always that smart.

and while i dont consider what these people are doing a very good idea in the least ..i do admire them for there bravery ( however misplaced ).

and to all those who say that Protesters and other people who dont agree with the US and traitors and should be punished ( i have heard plenty of opinions like that around here ). they are people to ..US citizens to , and our goverment states the people have a right to freedom of speech. if the people of the united states never had different opinions alot of things would be worse and not better.

[bornl33t]

Dingle berries

[1stdeadeye]

Not Quite

Originally posted by nastymag
and while i dont consider what these people are doing a very good idea in the least ..i do admire them for there bravery ( however misplaced ).

and to all those who say that Protesters and other people who dont agree with the US and traitors and should be punished ( i have heard plenty of opinions like that around here ). they are people to ..US citizens to , and our goverment states the people have a right to freedom of speech. if the people of the united states never had different opinions alot of things would be worse and not better.

The protestors have all the right in the world to espouse their views here at home. Giving aid and comfort to the enemy in the war zone is not an American right. These morons deserve what they get!

I don't agree with protestors here at home, but I'll defend their right to do so.

[Kevmaster]

this is not excercising their right to freedom of speech.

I agree with 1st. Ill protect your right to protest at home with pickets and as many people as you want. I dont agree with that opinion, however, ill defend it. BUT it is not your right to go AID A FOREIGN COUNTRY, whom we may be engaged with war! Aiding another country whom we are at war with IS AN ACT OF TREASON! Anyone who wishes to do so should be taken out back and shot

[shartley]

Originally posted by nastymag
while i am sure the US AIR Force tries to only hit military targets ...it misses sometimes.

i found this fact kinda ironic

deaths at world trade center. Over 3.500

CIVILIAN death in afghanistan due to allied bombing

Over 3.500

[Rooster]

"ANKARA (Reuters) - A group of around 50 Western anti-war activists received visas on Tuesday to enter Iraq where they plan to form "human shields" in an effort to deter a possible U.S.-led attack on the Arab state.
The volunteers said at an impromptu news conference in the Turkish capital they hoped their presence and the possibility of Western casualties would encourage U.S. political leaders and military planners to re-think any plans to bomb Baghdad for its alleged development of weapons of mass destruction. "

Do they have to provide their own ziplock baggies for their remains removal?

Second whoever popped up with this 3,500 civilian deaths in Afghanistan, that number has never been proven. And considering an afgahn civilian only looks different from a afghan soldier if they are holding a gun, its hard to tell who was really who.

[oldsoldier]

Well, Shartley is right, 100%. There is a difference between protesting here, which is fine, and actively deterring the military in a war zone, which is illegal. It IS treason, look up the definition. Receiving aid and comfort is treason (read the fileson some of the pilots shot down in Vietnam), as is aiding and abetting the enemy. And, by prevening the destruction of military targets, or attempting to, is preventing the military from accomplishing a mission. Allowing said building to stand, possibly being used to manufacture weapins, equipment, or chemicals, to be used against allied troops, is illegal, and just not right.
Dont forget though, it said "western", not US; we dont know if there are ANY US citizens in there. Other countries will deal with their own citizens in their own way; unfortunately, we will end up coddling them, as our public has a skewed opinion about people like this. Look at the idiot who was in Al Quaeda; they had a helluva time pressing treason charges against him due to public opininon. For Petes sake, he was in their army!!!! How much more proof do you need?

[Trunnion]

one report i read mentioned a quote from an American. there is at least one American in that group, and i'm willing to be there are a couple more. there is also at least one British member of the group that i saw being interviewed on TV