War

[edweird]

God Chemical weapons piss me off...

No really, just the fact that the opposing country has the option to use em makes your peacetime training hell. I could be a happy man if I never had to put on my chem gear again and hump out a "Surge" in full MOPP 4. Chem gear sucks nuff said.

I always found atropine a joke also... its so hush hush on what it actually does to you. so I looked it up just now

Most of the side effects of atropine are directly related to its antimuscarinic action. Dryness of the mouth, blurred vision, photophobia and tachycardia commonly occur with chronic administration of therapeutic doses. Anhidrosis also may occur and produce heat intolerance or impair temperature regulation in persons living in a hot environment. Constipation and difficulty in micturition may occur in elderly patients. Occasional hypersensitivity reactions have been observed, especially skin rashes which in some instances progressed to exfoliation.

yeah like you really want me loading munitions on that junk!

Oh and like Oldsoldier said... "It doesnt solve anything that conventional munitions cant accomplish"

If you dont trust the Media (and you shouldnt really) trust me instead, We have lots of cool brand spankky new conventional toys we are more than willing to test on moving targets... if ya get my drift.

Also if reduction of collateral dmg was an issue for the iraqis they would take a lession from the british and the V-2 flyovers and leave the damn thing alone. Yes smart bombs do hit there target... if they arnt shot at randomly by retards with AK-47's. Really how smart is it to shoot at the Presision Guided Munition that is making 90 degree turns on streets? Yeah random fire sometimes hits guidance surfaces and lead it astray from the "military target".

[SGTKennedy]

If my country needed me i would go. no question about it, as im already gone. When i joined it probably was more about college money than anything else. but as i went thru training i realized how much the country really does mean to me. i am unhappy to be separated from everything i love, but if me spending a year in risky territory doing my duty makes life just a little better stateside it will be worth it 1000 times over.
And seeing the whiney little bastids (not the word of choice) that are only in it for college money makes me want to buttstroke them in the head. they make my time her miserable. i have to deal with their crap while im trying to get my stuff together and adjust, and soon while im trying to accomplish the mission.
-kennedy

[Rooster]

"If the draft is enlisted I will simply refuse to go. I love my country, but I think that with all the firepower we have, more troops wouldn't help. If the poo hits the fan, I'm definitely going to Canada."

Then go, becuase you sure arn't an American. Draft dodging should be treason, and there is only one thing to do with a traitor.

[JEDI]

Originally posted by Thordic
I don't think we'll need to see a draft in the foreseeable future.

That being said, anyone who votes three should just leave the country now, since they obviously don't want to live here anyway.

Thordic, it seems no matter what the subject, I always read your replies and think "I couldnt agree more." Disturbed minds think alike

[Smoke]

Originally posted by Thordic
I don't think we'll need to see a draft in the foreseeable future.

That being said, anyone who votes three should just leave the country now, since they obviously don't want to live here anyway.

Here Here!!!!

[Will Wood]

Originally posted by Rooster
"If the draft is enlisted I will simply refuse to go. I love my country, but I think that with all the firepower we have, more troops wouldn't help. If the poo hits the fan, I'm definitely going to Canada."

Then go, becuase you sure arn't an American. Draft dodging should be treason, and there is only one thing to do with a traitor.

... I would say more, but I don't want to get this into a flaming war. Think about that again.. I think in now way it is being a traitor. If I was able to go, no way I would flee, but I wouldn't disgrace those who fleed.

[darklord]

Originally posted by Rooster
"If the draft is enlisted I will simply refuse to go. I love my country, but I think that with all the firepower we have, more troops wouldn't help. If the poo hits the fan, I'm definitely going to Canada."

Then go, becuase you sure arn't an American. Draft dodging should be treason, and there is only one thing to do with a traitor.

-insert multiple expletive flame here- Not an American? How dare you! I don't see you stepping up to the plate. How would I be a traitor because I don't believe in fighting a war I don't believe in? I don't want to get banned, but I can say this, if I ever meet you in real life, there will be fists swung.

[Kevmaster]

When your country needs you, and youre not willing to go to war, i say go on up to Canada right now...or maybe Mexco since Canada is too good for you

[Thordic]

We could just shoot anyone running for Canada at the border

Believe in the war or don't beleive in it, thats your choice. But fighting for the country you live in is another thing.

If you don't want to defend America, how dare you vote? How dare you enjoy the rights that other American's have given their lives for? You have bigger balls than an elephant making claims like that. Its sickening.

And what would you be swinging fists for? To defend your "personal honor" at being called a traitor? I'm sorry, but any honor you may have had went out the window when you turned tail and ran when your country needed you.

[Remington]

ALL FILES SHOULD BE REMOVED!

Now I understand why they don't want religious, racial,or political discussions on AO.

I'm NOT taking sides but I just thought I'd bring up something: There's this poster of a political cartoon(for the First Amendment) in one of my classes, and it this hippy-looking guy burning an American flag on it. Surrounding this guy, sort of faded, are these skeletons wearing WWII era combat helmets, Civil War style general's hats, etc. The skeletons have mad faces and are saying, "We fought and died so that he could burn our flag"(or something to that extent). Anyway. My point is, the men and women that fought and died before our time died to give us the freedom to do what we want, something most other countries don't have. One of those freedoms is the freedom of speech. The hippie in the cartoon, technically, has the freedom to burn the flag, just like someone might not want to fight for our country has the freedom to decide whether or not he or she wants to. I'm not saying it is right to not fight for one's country(nor am I saying its wrong) but it is the freedom of an individual to decide whether or not they believe in fighting. I personally plan on joining the armed services after 2 or 4 years of college and giving the generations to follow me what my country and the men and women before me have endowed to us all: Freedom.

[shartley]

[darklord]

I don't appreciate people using this thread as a means of flaming myself personally. This is supposed to be a FRIENDLY online board. I don't come here to get flamed by 99999 people for having a certain belief, nor do I appreciate people using this thread as grounds to attack my character.

The thing about this war is, it's not like we're being attacked. WE ARE ATTACKING ANOTHER COUNTRY. So don't preach to me about "defending" one's country, as we are not, we are blatantly swinging our weight around, trying to be "big brother" to the whole world. Don't get me wrong, I loathe Saddam, he's one of the most evil men around, but I just don't see the point in a draft. If our country were attacked, I would fight, but I don't see the point in fighting in a war in which our government decides to be the "end all be all" world authority.

You know, before, I thought this was a decent board, with decent people. Guess I was wrong there! The following people flamed me for something I said, using the thread as the battle ground: Thordic, Kevmaster, and Rooster. There were a few others who flamed me inadvertedly. I'm NOT SORRY for saying what I think. And as for what I voted, I voted NO, not that I would flee the country. I just think it's BS that you people are attacking me for saying something "unpatriotic". You guys just had a good field day beating me senseless with your words on AO. YOU'RE ALL WINNERS! I HOPE YOU FEEL GOOD ABOUT YOURSELVES! So why don't you all have a little pow wow about how anyone who doesn't believe in what you believe in should die, and go home to your houses with your white picket fences and 2.5 kids.

You people need to learn how to respect other people's opinions instead of just letting the flames go. Ever since I've come back from my ban for writing about why this country should be RESPECTED, I've gotten nothing but crap from you people.

Mods- close the thread, do what you will, but I did nothing but state my opinion.

[shartley]

[darklord]

SHartley, I never said I knew what I was talking about, I was just voicing my opinions. And as for "throwing a tantrum", what do you expect me to do, just say "please sir, may I have another?" whenever someone flames me? I would hope not.

I know that attacking can be a defensive move, since, if I gather what you're saying, that we're "preventing" Saddam from unleashing weapons of mass destruction upon the world. Now I think that's debateable, since, if we attack him in order to prevent him from doing something, haven't we then just changed what may have happened, instead of something that would have happened?

And as for WWII, we did send troops, but wasn't that until after the bombing of Pearl Harbor? I recall that we sent aid (tanks, weapons, food, ammunition) to our allies, but we did not "enter" the war until Pearl Harbor happened. You don't know what you're talking about either.

I just think that this war is different. With Afghanistan, Al Quida attacked us directly, and of course, we swept in with troops, eliminating terrorist camps. However with Iraq, it just doesn't seem like the war is being initiated for a specific reason. To me, it seems like Bush is just trying to kill Saddam while he's sending troops into the Middle East. Saddam has been brooding weapons of mass destruction for a long time, has he not? So why hasn't the US attacked him already?

[shartley]