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just because they have the weapon doesn't mean they'll use it as a preemptive strike. they could keep them until they start losing a potential war and use them as bargaining chips. and who's to say they will only use them as strategic weapons? they could use them in a tactical capacity, and fire the weapons at our soldiers on the ground. just becuase they have long range missiles doesn't mean they'll use them in that capacity
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Originally posted by Trunnion i've noticed alot of people wondering why we're handling the N. Korean problme differently than the Iraq problem, but the answer seems pretty obvious to me: Korea has nukes.
I think it's more like: North Korea has done this before and diplomacy worked then, lets try that first. Diplomacy has not worked with Iraq and we have moved on to the next step.
Originally posted by Vendetta If we were to help these countries more they would not want to destroy us. "You don't bite the hand that feeds you."
You know, the US gives 65% or there abouts of ALL international food aid to hte world (including TONS food to NKorea & Iraq--a little less friendly giving though with Iraq). Id say everyone still wants to bite the hand that feeds the world
I dont foresee a nuclear attack by NK any time soon. They know full well that a single nuke launched on ANY country would result in their demise. I feel the biggest issue is that China, their strongest ally, MUST tell them to stop. We are the bad guys if you ask them. their soldiers are told that we will suck their blood if they are captured. China, however, telling them to stop this crazy game would impress upon them that the whole world does believe they need to stop their maddness. However, China is blaking at this and is actaully supplying them with necessary materials to build up their reactor and to process the spent plutonium. The only positive light I can see is that the IAEA has voted, 31-0, that NK is in violation if international law and has refered it to our friends at hte UN Security Council. Yippy! The UN can screw us on another country
Originally posted by battlegroup Diplomacy has not worked with Iraq and we have moved on to the next step.
Heres my only problem with diplomacy. In 1994, they agreed to stop their plant, stop their nukes and we would give them power. We agreed to it, they agreed to it. for 8 years the two of us held up our ends. They then broke it off and started a nuke program. In return, we stopped our end of the bargin. Now, they want the same agreement from 1994 AND A NON AGRESSION TREATY. My problem is that what is to stop them in 5 more years for asking for something else on top of the 1994 and the non agression treaty? NOTHING!
It goes back to the children's story...if you give a mouse a cookie, hes gunna want a glass of milk
Just because they have them doesnt mean they'll use them. N. Korea launches 1 at us, we'll send about 50 at them. It would be suicide and they would all be dead VERY quickly, thats just how it works. It makes 0 sense for them to use nukes, but of course the media will make it seem like they just might.
and also, N. Korea lacks the ability to pick out worthy targets. They would most likely target "the west coast" for lack of better precision. Although a nuke would be devastating, what would be worse is the 4 headed donkeys they'll have after we're done. Then the enviornmentalists will be angry at them for being a country that gets no sunlight and has scarred soil.
I think that we can take care of our selfs as long as we arnt hit. From what I heard at one time we had enough, nukes, bombs, etc for each person in the US to have 10,000 of tnt a piece.
Trust me NK wont use the nukes. We're far bigger and would shake off a nuke attack and send some towards them. But if we use nukes theres a chance we might hurt china and skorea a lil too. Go to a globe and put a dime on JUST NK as youll see it will damage other countries as well.
jreb-if we use low yeild nukes (read the sum of all fears, not the movie it explaines nukes well), then we could avoid hurting other nations, BUT, that is a no no in this world of humanitarians. if it was up to me, iraq, iran, saudi arabia, france, north korea, and china would be ashes in the wind HAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!
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