i found a new use for co2

[Thordic]

Yeah, even a tiny mouse in capable of inflicting a wound on a snake that can kill it. Snakes are very prone to infection from such bites.

Dead rats dont bite

[wyn1370]

on a lighter note, CO2 is also good for cooling beer very quickly

[shartley]

Originally posted by wyn1370
on a lighter note, CO2 is also good for cooling beer very quickly

His snake drinks beer too?!?!

[fire1811]

oh yeah its a very good beer cooler i think thats why god made co2.
just get urself a co extinguisher and put two cans of beer in the tube and let her rip for about 10sec
coooold as ice beer mmmmm
for better results use bushlight

[cphilip]

This is actually quite humain. And we used it all the time in the Animal labs. The key is to preflood the chamber with it and it is a bit heavier than air so it will stay there if its not disturbed and you want to displace all the air in there so that its Asphixiant properties are quick. After an initial excitement phase which is very short it will become almost anesthetic like and it is very humain. We used large Plexiglass boxes to precharge out euthanasia chambers with CO2. Its much cleaner and safer (to some extent) than useing overdoses of Anesthetics which are Hepatotoxic and lighter than air. Its very quick and its the right thing to do. It is much more humain than cervical dislocation or Guilotine. Just be carefull you contain it and do not get a full wiff of it. It will knock the breath out of you. Just one wiff will set you on your knee's. Do it in a well ventilated area.

[magsRus]

Anyone notice just how many big words cphilip used

[fire1811]

mods....sheeeshh

[Wc Keep]

is that rat really dead though or knocked unconsicous cause i thought that an excess of co2 just caused people to faint. phil correct me if im wrong here.

yeah phil is very edumecated.

[cphilip]

No it will completely kill him. In about three minutes. Excitement stage last about half a minute followed by unconsious phase of 2-5 minutes and it is an Asphixiant Gas and displaces all Oxygen. So if in a 100% CO2 environment it will kill and quite readily so. There is a phase that last for a minute or two that you could revive him but there may indeed be damage to something if you do. One thing you will notice is as the excitement phase is ending and unconciousness begins the breathing becomes very pronounced and deep. This is because CO2 is the bodies trigger for respiration. Not the absence of O2 that most might think it is, but the presence or build up of C02. And so the trigger is huge with C02 in large quantities like this and it apears he is gasping when in fact his body is realy being overwelmed with the trigger to breath. Same thing in a way but...But the variation of time it takes to kill is due to the individual resistance to CO2 and ability for that individual to carry oxygen in the blood stream. In the case of very young, its not as quick as they have larger O2 carrying capacities. So it is not a good choice for euthanasia on newborn animals. It can take 20 minutes for them to fully expire.

People faint from a lung full but rarely remain in a 100% environment of it long enough to cause death. Its heavier than air so if the floor of an area were flooding with it and they fell into that they would and do. This is one of the gasses that requires you to check work tunnels and tanks for before you send someone in. "confined space entry". So you do not have people go down from a wiff of them and lay in that oxygen deficent atmosphere. You send a probe down first and check for an Oxygen and CO2 level first.

[Wc Keep]

geez i can picture phil watching a rat die for 20 minutes..... "come on you dumb rat.......give me a mallet!!!"

[cphilip]

Sorry to say I watched thousands of animals die that way. You are required to attend the animal throught the entire process and confirm death but heart palpation afterward. It's the law. You burn out on that job fairly quickly.

[WicKeD_WaYz]

Originally posted by cphilip
This is actually quite humain. And we used it all the time in the Animal labs. The key is to preflood the chamber with it and it is a bit heavier than air so it will stay there if its not disturbed and you want to displace all the air in there so that its Asphixiant properties are quick. After an initial excitement phase which is very short it will become almost anesthetic like and it is very humain. We used large Plexiglass boxes to precharge out euthanasia chambers with CO2. Its much cleaner and safer (to some extent) than useing overdoses of Anesthetics which are Hepatotoxic and lighter than air. Its very quick and its the right thing to do. It is much more humain than cervical dislocation or Guilotine.

75% of that just went right over my head.

Originally posted by cphilip
Just be carefull you contain it and do not get a full wiff of it. It will knock the breath out of you. Just one wiff will set you on your knee's. Do it in a well ventilated area.

i do understand that though...

Originally posted by cphilip
and it apears he is gasping when in fact his body is realy being overwelmed with the trigger to breath.

ya thats exactly what happened. He took a few mouthfulls of it and went unconscious.

Originally posted by cphilip
This is actually quite humain. And we used it all the time in the Animal labs.

that will help me sleep easier at night

[covadsucks]

One thing that wasn't mentioned at it is key is that if a snake is bitten by it's prey it may grow fearfull of it's prey as it just was hurt and may also become "gun shy" towards further feedings. I've had to make "pinky pudding" on account of a snake being attacked by a feeder mouse and it losing it's desire to eat live prey. I've seen it happen with Red Tail Boa's and Ball Pythons quite often. Most of the other snakes I had as pets loved to have their prey live or if it was a large snake/rat, we'd take the rat and flick it on the head as hard as we could to scramble the nervous system some and thusly leave the prey "live" but incapacitated.

[WicKeD_WaYz]

ya my old boa stopped eating after he had a bad experience with a mouse. It bit him (not very hard) and he got affraid of eating and didnt eat for 2 months.

[hostage]

I use to use my old 20oz as a pc dust cleaner, works great!
-Doron