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  • aaron_mag
    Registered User
    • Jul 2002
    • 1375

    #1

    What are your feelings on the Jock Tax?

    Anyone hear about this tax of visiting athlete to a state. They tax them based on the percentage of their income while they are in the state.

    Anyone else find this really disturbing. I mean these athletes don't get to vote on elected officials in the state. This is taxation without representation for sure!
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  • Restola
    Certificated Cloud Buster
    • May 2001
    • 2230

    #2
    The simple solution for those athletes: stop visiting that state.

    When a team refuses to play in a certain state and the multi-million dollar stadium they just built collects dust, the law will change.

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    • Potatoboy
      Hamburgers should be high

      • Sep 2001
      • 2533

      #3
      Yeah It sucks!

      Just like working in another state and paying taxes there!

      Ooh, or how about working in a city that has a local income tax! I don't live there! Why should I pay it!!



      I've got a better idea.

      Maybe states and local goverments should stop building multimillion dollar stadiums, then atheletes wouldn't come, and the tax issue would be moot.

      Come on, get a grip.

      Whether they're running around a little ball or not their still working in the state, and thus pay state taxes.
      Potatoboy!

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      • Vendetta
        Nothing witty to say.
        • Sep 2002
        • 702

        #4
        Ooh, or how about working in a city that has a local income tax! I don't live there! Why should I pay it!!
        You are using the city's services. If you call the cops or the fire department, they come. Why should you not pay your fair share.

        We want to be safe and live in clean cities, but we don't want to pay for them.

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        • Potatoboy
          Hamburgers should be high

          • Sep 2001
          • 2533

          #5
          Vendetta... I realize that...

          The rolled eyes smilie was to denote massive levels of sarcasim.
          Potatoboy!

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          • wyn1370
            ...--...
            • Feb 2001
            • 3821

            #6
            Originally posted by Vendetta
            You are using the city's services. If you call the cops or the fire department, they come. Why should you not pay your fair share.
            [ex-tax guy ramble]On that note so do the athletes. But unlike the local and state income tax on normal working individuals, the athletes are not being paid by a company of the state they are visiting, they are still making wages in their home state. But lets then take someone who spends a certian percentage of time in a different state, they are paid from another state, but could still be subject to the state they are working in. And companies face the same type of battle for sales taxes. It's not going to be easy to figure out what the income they make in other states is. I am so glad I got out of taxes. [/ex-tax guy ramble]
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            • aaron_mag
              Registered User
              • Jul 2002
              • 1375

              #7
              Here is my problem with the Jock tax. Legislatures are deciding on taxes to non constituents. Plus why just jocks. When I visit a city for business shouldn't I be taxed as well? Great idea. We'll reduce our Union (the United States) to a bunch of independent states where you have to fill out tax forms before you are allowed to enter each state.

              Then you can go back to your own state and claim that since you were not taking advantage of your own state services and you should get a reimbursement for a portion of local taxes for your time out of the state. This is exploitation. Admittedly these athletes are rich but that does not make it right.
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              • Restola
                Certificated Cloud Buster
                • May 2001
                • 2230

                #8
                Originally posted by aaron_mag
                We'll reduce our Union (the United States) to a bunch of independent states...
                "united"...."states"

                think about that...

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                • aaron_mag
                  Registered User
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 1375

                  #9
                  Hmmmmmm. I thought about it and to me that means having freedom of commerce between our states. Once we start tariffing our athletes where does it stop? Are we in Oregon going to start putting tarrifs on visiting lawyers, imported goods, etc from California. Why don't you "think" about it for a bit.
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                  • shartley
                    paintball player
                    • Mar 2001
                    • 9169

                    #10
                    Originally posted by aaron_mag
                    Here is my problem with the Jock tax. Legislatures are deciding on taxes to non constituents. Plus why just jocks. When I visit a city for business shouldn't I be taxed as well? Great idea. We'll reduce our Union (the United States) to a bunch of independent states where you have to fill out tax forms before you are allowed to enter each state.

                    Then you can go back to your own state and claim that since you were not taking advantage of your own state services and you should get a reimbursement for a portion of local taxes for your time out of the state. This is exploitation. Admittedly these athletes are rich but that does not make it right.

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                    • datapimp69
                      Pimp Master Delux
                      • Jun 2001
                      • 1219

                      #11
                      Originally posted by wyn1370

                      [ex-tax guy ramble]On that note so do the athletes. But unlike the local and state income tax on normal working individuals, the athletes are not being paid by a company of the state they are visiting, they are still making wages in their home state. But lets then take someone who spends a certian percentage of time in a different state, they are paid from another state, but could still be subject to the state they are working in. And companies face the same type of battle for sales taxes. It's not going to be easy to figure out what the income they make in other states is. I am so glad I got out of taxes. [/ex-tax guy ramble]
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                      • Vendetta
                        Nothing witty to say.
                        • Sep 2002
                        • 702

                        #12
                        Wow I agree with Shartley

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                        • aaron_mag
                          Registered User
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 1375

                          #13
                          This is not the case here. In Atlanta during the all stars game for the NBA all the athletes got stuck with this tax which targets Jocks (they love it when A Rod comes to town).

                          I don't feel sorry for high paid athletes. I know they make a ton of money which we support because we like winning teams. I disagree with the principle of taxing non-constituents on the basis of income plus a disagree with a singular tax. In that case if Bill Gates visits Atlanta he should be taxed based on his income.

                          I have no problem paying taxes in my own state. I think that these sort of taxes, however, raise interesting points and are wrong on principle. Because they make a lot of money and we can get away with it should not be the basis of a tax.
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                          • 1stdeadeye
                            Still around????
                            • Jun 2002
                            • 8501

                            #14
                            The problem is?

                            Originally posted by aaron_mag
                            This is not the case here. In Atlanta during the all stars game for the NBA all the athletes got stuck with this tax which targets Jocks (they love it when A Rod comes to town).

                            I don't feel sorry for high paid athletes. I know they make a ton of money which we support because we like winning teams. I disagree with the principle of taxing non-constituents on the basis of income plus a disagree with a singular tax. In that case if Bill Gates visits Atlanta he should be taxed based on his income.

                            I have no problem paying taxes in my own state. I think that these sort of taxes, however, raise interesting points and are wrong on principle. Because they make a lot of money and we can get away with it should not be the basis of a tax.
                            When you earn money in any state, they have a right to tax you on it. The All Stars were paid a wage to play in the All Star game. They earned that wage in Atlanta. Atlanta had to provide services for that game to happen. I have no problem taxing the beneficiaries of those services for them.
                            If Bill Gates visits Atlanta, he will not need all of those Atlanta Police officers to work the stadium and control traffic.

                            These players are paid in their home state, but they earn their money for services all around the country. If they are taxing local services, tax them!

                            I have a tought time feeling for pampered and spoiled millionaires!

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                            • Vendetta
                              Nothing witty to say.
                              • Sep 2002
                              • 702

                              #15
                              I have a tought time feeling for pampered and spoiled millionaires!
                              None of us should feel sorry for the super-rich. We have been malipulated to think that what is best for them is good for us.

                              They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
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