I joined the 14 club!

[Cliffio]

speed set aside, which i can do nothing but admit that the air valve is much faster, price wise the new x's and ir3's are very comparable

does it matter which is "better"
cause i could care less


cliff

[1stdeadeye]

Originally posted by Cliffio
speed set aside, which i can do nothing but admit that the air valve is much faster, price wise the new x's and ir3's are very comparable

does it matter which is "better"
cause i could care less


cliff

I didn't say which one was better. I was just defending my X-Mag. Some people were calling it overpriced while the Angel was reasonable. They are both fine High End Markers. Heck I've said it before. If not for AO, I'd be shooting an Angel. Thank God for AO!

[Cliffio]

well if you look at the prices they are a tad pricier

haha, no im playin

the VALUE of course is what counts


Cliff

[Angry Man]

Well, I've never used an IR3 or X-mag, but all I can say is that for the price the 2k3 Angel definitely beats the emag.
Way lighter, way better trigger, higher max ROF, better looks, much better balance and battery life too. Manual and hybrid modes on the emag sure are cool, though, and level ten is nice as well, but I think the angel still wins.

It's really preference at the 1000+ plus price point, though....pretty much everything in that price range is amazing. Speed is all about trigger jobs more than stock trigger, and all the guns at that level are light and cool looking.

[1stdeadeye]

Apples and Oranges!

Originally posted by Angry Man
Well, I've never used an IR3 or X-mag, but all I can say is that for the price the 2k3 Angel definitely beats the emag.
Way lighter, way better trigger, higher max ROF, better looks, much better balance and battery life too. Manual and hybrid modes on the emag sure are cool, though, and level ten is nice as well, but I think the angel still wins.

It's really preference at the 1000+ plus price point, though....

The Emag has the highest proven rate of fire out there! Do a search and fing out! The Emag can be bought for $750 new. The angel prices are on the preceeding page. The Emag battery is much longer lasting then an Angel Battery. We were comparing the X-Mag to the Angel because the prices are similar. Come to the table with facts or don't come at all!

[Cliffio]

LOL

[Carpecerevisi]

Ok, everyone just go get out an old spyder compact P, and see how fast you do with that. Teach you people who think you have fast fingers...

[Cypres0099]

Hey you can fan those sypder compacts pretty darn fast.

[personman]

Re: Wrong.

Originally posted by 1stdeadeye
It also has an aluminum bolt.

No it doesnt..
This thread is retarded.

[Angry Man]

Wrong, wrong and wrong. Yes, the emag is around 800 while the angel is 850, but it's close since you need to add level ten to the emag anyway.

Seconly, the emag is capped at 16bps...the angel is capped at 20. Which one is faster? The angel.

The emag battery lasts longer? No, it doesn't. You're flat out wrong. Angel batteries last 350,000-500,000 cycles. Emag batteries don't compare.

[1stdeadeye]

Re: Re: Wrong.

Originally posted by personman

No it doesnt..
This thread is retarded.

I have one. The X-Valve is aluminum! You are wrong, unless Tom told you something the rest of us don't know.

[Cliffio]

angry, i know you may be set on this, but trust me your not gonna win

i know because i use to try


just let it go



Cliff

[1stdeadeye]

Originally posted by Angry Man
Wrong, wrong and wrong. Yes, the emag is around 800 while the angel is 850, but it's close since you need to add level ten to the emag anyway.

Seconly, the emag is capped at 16bps...the angel is capped at 20. Which one is faster? The angel.

The emag battery lasts longer? No, it doesn't. You're flat out wrong. Angel batteries last 350,000-500,000 cycles. Emag batteries don't compare.

First, you can get Emags in the $700 range. The new ones come with the level 10 already installed.

Second, that is a cap. The E-Mag can fire much faster. The angel can't. E-Magnum board?

Third, I meant between charges! Don't tell me you Angel has a magic battery that has 350000 cycles between charges.

[personman]

Re: Re: Re: Wrong.

Originally posted by 1stdeadeye


I have one. The X-Valve is aluminum! You are wrong, unless Tom told you something the rest of us don't know.

I never said anything about the X-Valve.
The bolt is stainless steel.

[Angry Man]

I'm pretty sure the angel's manual says 350,000 between charges, but I guess I could be wrong.

And I'm gonna take cliffio's advice and stop arguing, cause dissing emags on a website owned by agd is just dumb. Still, if you added an emagnum board that's another 300 bucks to get above 16bps, but whatever. I don't have either gun so it don't effect me!