How do you work with photoshop? Is it me or is it not the most user friendly program? Anyone have some sites that may guide me through it with examples that you follow along with? Shartley how do you do this for a living?
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It is not an entry level program. Sorry. But it is also not the hardest out there either. I don't know what to tell you other than play around with it. You will not become an expert in a day or two... sorry. And I don't have the time to teach people online (at this time).
If you do a Web Search using the words "Photoshop Help" or "tips" or "lessons", I am sure you will find loads of sites. I don't know any offhand, but know they are out there. Maybe Webby or someone else knows of some?
Too many people think just having the right programs will make them Graphic Gods.. but as Webby can tell you, it takes more than that. In fact it is quite the opposite. If you are good at graphics, you can usually use lower level software and do alright, but if you are not very good, you will STILL not be very good with High End software. But having the right software for the right application and knowing how to use it makes things a whole lot easier. You know... the right tool for the job, and knowing how to use it.
I wish you the best. But maybe now you (and others) will see things in a little different light.
Things are not always as easy as some would like you to believe. You can't just pick up some software and become a "graphics god", or create stunning work without time and practice. And you can often DO something, but to do it RIGHT is another story.
Good luck in your lessons... keep us posted.
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I'm not a graphics expert, but over the winter I plan to take classes in some of the big boy graphics programs. These are Bryce, Rhino, 3DSM. They make photoshop look like paintbrush
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Actually, they don't make Photoshop look like paintbrush... and that is the truth. That would only be the case if you did not know the full potential of the software, sorry. Some of the Programs you mentioned will also need things created IN photoshop to be worth anything. So you STILL need good Photoshop (or its equivalent) skills.
And while you are at it, look into Lightwave. People fall for the hype of 3DSM, but until recently 3DSM fell FAR short of what Lightwave could ALWAYS do, and still falls short in some areas. You want quick video game type 3d and animation, 3DSM is the way to go. But if you want Photo-Realistic 3d and animation, Lightwave would be my choice. But both are nice to know. And one semester is not enough time for EITHER of them.
I would also not put all those programs in the same category. Big Boys... Bryce would not be my choice for that distinction. It does good work, but it is not a "Big Boy". It ranks about the same as "Poser" in my book. They do nice work, but are too NOVICE friendly and too limiting to make my "Big Boy" list. They do wonderful work if used in conjunction with other programs like Illustrator or Photoshop, but I would NEVER use them alone. I think I will leave it at that.
But saying all those programs make Photoshop look like paintbrush is a gross misrepresentation of Photoshop, and a drastic over-hype of the others. I would recommend learning ONE, and to a decent level of proficiency, before jumping into several. And you can not learn much of ANY of them by taking classes in them all for "The Winter".
They also do different things (for the most part... there are some overlaps, but that is another issue). Can you design a Movie Poster with 3DSM? But you can with Illustrator and/or Photoshop. But you will need one of those to make 3DSM worth much of anything... unless you never plan on putting skins on your models.
Same is true with the other programs. Unless you never use anything other than the stock things provide with the programs (mostly for educational purposes) you will need more than one software suit. And to compare them to each other is like comparing apples and oranges. Sure they are fruits, but you can't make an apple pie with a basket of oranges.
They are all good, but used for different purposes. Bryce is NOT on the same skill level as Lightwave, 3DSM, or even Photoshop (if used to its true potential) in my opinion. And definitely not Poster. Do they produce nice work? Sure. But it will only impress those who don't know what they are looking at, and definitely not anyone actually skilled in graphics.
I would say if you are going to PAY for classes, I would stick to Photoshop and Illustrator until you NEED to know the others. They will probably not do you as much good in the long run as having a firm level of Illustrator or Photoshop skills.
But again.. these are just my opinions. And I am sure others could elaborate further on the issues, but I am getting quite tired... LOL
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http://www.planetphotoshop.com has some nice tutorials and help for all levels of use. I often visit there for helpful pointers when I'm stuck.
FooTemps - are you from California? My roomate uses the word "hella" in almost every sentence and he's from San Francisco. I'm east coast myself and I've never heard of that word before September
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Thanks guys. I am sure those links will be of great help for those Members just starting out. I know how frustrating it can be to have the "power" at your fingertips but not know how to use it. It just takes time, and I am sure they will do just fine.
Again, thanks.Comment
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I learned just by doodling. Takes a while, but it works.Comment
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lol panzzer....
im pretty good at photoshop.
no frikken graphical wiz, but I find my way aroundComment
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That's why I'm taking this class. It (is supposed to) gives you an idea of what these programs do and allow you to choose which path you'd like to continue into. I'm thinking 3d-modeling and textures because they're the only ones I can imagine would be useful in a career.Comment
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Ahhh, I understand now. It is an overview of available Software suits, their uses, capabilities, and such... to let you determine what path you would like to take with further studies.
Yes, then that would be a worthwhile course to take.
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BAH!!!
Hi. Do what you want yada yada...
[Edit] Yes I did change my post because I was critisized for stuff that I said so I changed it.Last edited by InfinatyBPS; 10-28-2001, 06:53 PM.You smell like dookie... No really though.Comment
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Do what you like.. I suggest USING the tutorials. Some people want to actually become proficient in less than 2 years.
Making a good graphic is FAR more than using a "cool effect" or a "neat filter". And most of the time those who think (or state) so have a much different definition of "professional grade" than actual professionals do.
Take everyone's posts for what they are worth and do what YOU think is best. That is always the wisest course of action.
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i noticed that a photoshop demo was mentioned. where can i find the download?sigpicComment
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