FUSH?

[shartley]

Black.. I sent you a PM on that, and now you want to play this game?

I also did NOT disable the files more than a couple hours. I was upset, and then fixed it.. you act as if it was down for weeks, not a couple hours. While I was not posting, ALL the images were still working... sorry.

This has gotten out of hand. You have your clique, fine. I don't have a problem with that.. What I DO have a problem with is twisting of words, and knowing so many realize this is happening and noone stepping up to say so.

I am not going to argue with you about it. Go crap on someone else. Thank you.

[BlackVCG]

Play games? You're the one that started this whole game. Now you're reading into my post. No where did I specify how long the sig images were down. I said they were down until you came back. If you want to make it sound like I that's what I said then so be it. Don't twist my words to fit your arguement.

This has gotten out of hand because you had a problem with FUSH and brought it up. I never questioned your FUVM, but all of the mods and the Admins had an idea of what it meant. We never tried to antagonize you and find out what it meant. You wanted to act immature and put that in your sig, so we let it go. Now that what it means is evident, I take great offense to it and so should everyone else.

Have my clique? I don't have FUSH in my sig and I'm not defending those that do. Your FUVM was in your sig for week and noone stepped up about it because we never knew what it meant. You started this game and now you're responsible for it.

[Russ]

Can't we just come here to AO and talk a little paintball? I though all the teenage baloney went on at the "dojo"?

There must be something in the DSL cables, 'cause tensions seem to be running a bit tight here.

Russ, just here to have fun

In the words of Billy Gibbons of ZZ Top...

...Lord take me downtown, I'm just lookin' for some FUSH

[Riotz]

I agree with black.



shartley, you can critize everyone, but GOD FORBID someone says something to you.

[X-Plosive]

Tiger I'd appreciate you taking my sig out of your sig. You truly are the sig stealer. First you took beligerant's AO cookie and butchered it. Only to put it in your sig.

[hobbes]

Guys come on. Im behind Shartley 100%. I mean he isn't a bad guy at all. An trying to say FUSH isnt directed at him, hmmm lets see we did this in 1st or second grade, you pick, yes we all remebr "I didn't say THAT Jimmy was stupid, I was talking about ANOTHER Jimmy."

I mean is that all you guys can do? Make fun of people ON THE NET! This shows being childish among other things. I mean making fun of or talking hoo-hoo to someone in real life is childish, on the net where your faceless, its even worse.

Shartleys done a lot for AO, AGD,a nd AO memebrs. His art and creativity make the regular, grey page seem a lot more entertaining for one part. He designed AGD's manual cover, ran the contest for AGD in which, you, Riotz won. Now what if he never ran it? Well I know many childish gibberish talker talkers on here that wouldn't have the competence or literacy to run it. I mean he was doing so much for what? Nothing at all. He doesnt even put his name on his creations.

Just think a little next time before you put soemone down.
-Nick

[X-Plosive]

yeah hobbes, shartley and i talked about everything you just said there and more. Good job posting it. And that whole sadman hussein excuse is rediculous. Did anyone know that Sadham backwards is "Mahdas"? Isn't that a coincidink?

[Riotz]

again and again

Well I see shartley got his little "cliche" together.


First off, are you saying that I wouldn't have had won the contest if shartley didn't run it? Because that's the second time I heard that. First from shartley himself. To make something clear. I almost didn't enter because he was being a a**. And I'm not the only one who noticed it.


Secondly, shartley was going around insulting EVERYONE by saying "FUVM". It started after he got mad at a few people on the forum. I'm sure he had in mind who that was meant for. IF he didn't have anyone in mind when he did that, THEN he offended everyone on this forum.


He can sure dish it out, but when he gets it back he cries like a little kid. I'm not the one who is being childish here. He needs to admit when he is wrong. He needs to be nicer to people. You think I just picked him out randomly. NO. I'm a nice guy, but when you just won't shutup and think you are better then everyone else and think you know everything. Then you need to learn that you are wrong and need to correct yourself.

How many times does he have to be told this. He just picks our posts apart and twists them to fit his own little agenda.



First step is admit you have a problem...

[Thordic]

This is TOTALLY ridiculous.

Ok.. if you are going to defend Shartley, fine. But make sense.

First off, "He made manual covers". Dude, did you even look at those things? I mean, no offense, but they are amazingly simple. Second, if you want to bring the Warp Feed package thing he made, I, along with quite a few others, think it is a fairly close ripoff of the Angel AIR logo/designs.

Secondly, he ran the design contest, which Riotz won. Are you trying to say that without Shartley, Riotz woulnd't have won? Did he answer a lot of questions? Yes, I'll give him that, he answered a lot of questions. Is he god because he can answer questions? No... nowhere close. And Shartley had nothing to do with who won, so that is BESIDES the fact. Tom ran the contest, the contest was his thing. Riotz owes nothign to Shartley, if he owes something to anyone, its Tom for sponsoring the whole thing.

And saying that us insulting him is childish? Did you not read this thread? Do you now understand that Shartley was saying "F" You Very Much to EVERYONE WHO SAW HIS DAMN SIGNATURE? He insulted EVERYONE. At least we aimed it at someone who, in our minds, deserves it.

As for games, I'm not playing games. I'm not going to hide anything. Here is the the truth of the matter.

Sam Hartley, I don't like you. I don't like your attitudes. I havn't liked you nor your attitudes since you showed up on this forum. I cannot see a foreseeable future where I will like you or your attitudes. And, as long as I see you being an arrogant what happens when you get poked by a needle , I'm going to call you on it. I will not let you get away with harassing people who are A) My friends or B) People who don't deserve it, in order of opposite importance. I won't stand behind a friend who draws legitimate fire, but so far your snipes have been uncalled for.

If you can't deal with that, that's too bad, because unless the mods decide to ban me for calling you on your mistakes, I'm here, and I'm not leaving.

But as far as I know, standing up for someone who is being harassed by another member isn't against the AO laws. Moderator correct me if I'm wrong here.

[hobbes]

Well first off Im saying no one would'vr won the contest if shartley didn't run it because there WOULD BE NO CONTEST! And see when you sit there and say "Shartley nitpicks what eevryone says to mee this own agenda" Im sorry dude, if you say something abotu someone, or if your wrong, is it wrong to take what they said and remind them of it? No. Im not part of any "clique" and last tiem ic hecked youa dn your friedns were all against shartley. Thats a clique. Im just defendeding someone that helps a lot of people. And if me defending someone who does nice thigns for NOTHING is wrong, then well I guess Im gonna be wrong for the rest of my life.
-Nick

[hobbes]

Heres for u thordac:
Yes your standing up for a freidn...so am I. I'll say it again, Shartly organized the thing and everything, yes it was Tom who backe dit all, but shartley worked ahrd answering questions and doing everyhting else. Thats a lot fo work. And you amy have your opinions on his artwork, as does everyone else. But to bring up "So he did the cover? Did yous ee what it looked like?" thats quite childish, to sit there and say "Well who cares he did the work, in my opinion it didn't look good." Hey Thordac, did you design a cover for it? Have you designed anyhting? Exactly.
-Nick

[Riotz]

I'm sure someone would have ran the contest if it was not for him.

And this little "clique" is just standing up for every AO member who shartley beasted. Sometimes he helps, but he hurts more then he helps.

[Riotz]

hobbes, what if I said I didn't like the way the cover was designed? What does it matter if Thordic never designed a cover before. He still has taste and can tell when something looks good AND when something looks bad.

You don't have to be a designer to tell the differnce.

[Thordic]

Two things...

1) The contest was announced before Shartley was named to run it. I'm not saying Shartley didn't work hard at his job as the mod of the contest, credit where credit is due. But he wasnt the contest incarnate, it would have existed without him.

2) Yes, actually I have designed covers many times. I work in the marketing department, and quite often make proposal covers. I know from a few years experience that those covers are very basic. As for designed anything, I may not be up to a graphics designers standards, but I do have some design skills. If you want to attack me and my knowledge, learn more about what I am knowledgeable about first. Designing covers and things is a decent portion of my job.

[hobbes]

Hmmmm we learned this in 1st rgade Riotz, how to read. At the top, it says, TO THORDAC: very clearly. I was not saying that you did not design covers. And I wasnt attacking personal opinion, I said thordac didn't have a point, instead of aknowledging that shartley ahd done it, he had to add that in his POV, it looked bad.(No, he said it was "amazingly simple" and "very basic". Do not twist words to make your point. Army) Thats childish.
-Nick