the grammy's

[Restola]

The legal responsibility for the safety of the flight isn't the passenger's, its the pilot's.

The FAA agrees with me:

Sec. 91.3 - Responsibility and authority of the pilot in command.
(a) The pilot in command of an aircraft is directly responsible for, and is the final authority as to, the operation of that aircraft.

Sec. 91.13 - Careless or reckless operation.
(a) No person may operate an aircraft in a careless or reckless manner so as to endanger the life or property of another.

NTSB Preliminary Report MIA01RA225
The total weight of the luggage, fuel on board at the time of the accident, plus the weight of the passengers showed that the total gross weight of the airplane was substantially exceeded.

Not to mention this little fact:

NTSB Preliminary Report MIA01RA225
Preliminary information indicated that the pilot was not approved to act as pilot-in-command in the accident aircraft under 14 CFR Part 135.

Lets not forget the drugs and alcohol that were in the pilot's system:

Sec. 91.17 - Alcohol or drugs.
(a) No person may act or attempt to act as a crewmember of a civil aircraft --

(1) Within 8 hours after the consumption of any alcoholic beverage;

(2) While under the influence of alcohol;

(3) While using any drug that affects the person's faculties in any way contrary to safety; or

(4) While having .04 percent by weight or more alcohol in the blood.

The pilot was breaking multiple regulations and was taking off in an airplane that was "substantially" overweight.

So no Trench, I am not wrong. And please dont lecture me about what piloting decisions I would make.

[Trench]

No matter the drugs the piliot used and such... Had she not been stupid then she would still be alive and making retarded music...

[DiRTyBuNNy]

And I'm surprised that someone hasn't realized that since the plane was flying in Jamaica it isn't subject to the FAA regulations of the United States....

[irbodden]

Re: the grammy's

Originally posted by yeahthatsme
i was watching the grammy's and they were showing a tribute to great musicians that have passed away and they didnt show alyiah! that pisses me off..i just had to rant i'm done now...

Great musicians, was Alyiah a great musician?

Neg.

[mykroft]

Frankly, Aaliyah could have been great but wasn't yet there.

Lisa 'Left-Eye' Lopez however was one of the pioneering female Hip-Hop stars. No matter how she died, she did leave a noticable mark on music. Whether or not you like her music, this is true.

But losing SRV in '89 was a greater loss than either of them.

[Restola]

Originally posted by DiRTyBuNNy
And I'm surprised that someone hasn't realized that since the plane was flying in Jamaica it isn't subject to the FAA regulations of the United States....

The airline (BLACKHAWK INT'L AIRWAYS) is a licenced US air carrier under FAR Part 135 (Commuter & On Demand Operations) with a pilot licenced in the US making a flight into US airspace.

Also:

Part 135.1(a)(1) requires air carriers who meet Part 119.1(a)(2) requirements (any that operate US registered aircraft) to comply with Part 135.

Part 135.249 covers use of prohibited drugs.

Part 135.251 covers misuse of alcohol.

I am not too familiar with Part 135, but my understanding is that simply because you are flying with an airline operating under certain rules (book keeping, licencing, etc), it doesn't waive your responsibility to follow Part 91 (General Operating & Flight rules).

Part 91.1(a) also requires that any aircraft operating within 3nm of the US coast comply with Part 91 (the rules I was quoting earlier).

In any case the moment the pilot was within 3nm of the US coast he would have been in violation of all regulations I mentioned earlier. He was also in violation of several Part 135 rules the moment he started the engine.

[MagMan5446]

Originally posted by Trench
Oh well... I wasn't a fan of her...

It was in fact her own fault that she fell to her death...

Oh yeah.... Hers and her 300+ pund body guard... I wonder if he got any?

Hey man, that's a pretty a-hole thing to say.

She's dead, payed for her stupidity (any others'), you can at least give a little respect and hold statements like that back.

[-J�ker-]

i hate award shows.... its all the ppl with hit songs which they didnt even write...

heres who i think should been on that great deceased artists list

Brad Nowell
Bob Marley
Layne Staley
Jam Master Jay

to name a few

[who_311]

Originally posted by mykroft

But losing SRV in '89 was a greater loss than either of them.

YEAH! Stevie lives forever!!!!!

[TecnoRobo]

Coldplay is a good band
and they write alot of there stuff...

[InfinatyBPS]

I personaly thought that her music was very annoying, yet I was very saddened when I heard the news of her death. But like others said, she was a relatively new artist and can't realy be considered "great". And as for Lisa "Left Eye" Lopez from TLC getting recognition, TLC had been around for years and was one of the, if not the most succesful woman's music groups ever.

[InfinatyBPS]

i hate award shows.... its all the ppl with hit songs which they didnt even write...

heres who i think should been on that great deceased artists list

Brad Nowell
Bob Marley
Layne Staley
Jam Master Jay

to name a few

Totaly agree....

[FalconGuy016]

I heard the grammys absolutly sucked, is this true?

[petefol]

jimi hendrix too. and you guys are forgetting, just because you dont like something doesnt mean that it isn't good. hendrix is indisputably one of the most skilled guitarists ever, but not everyone likes his music. so because alot of people dont like his music, that means he isnt great?

[Restola]

You just mixed three independant definitions to try to make a point.

good
1) Being positive or desirable in nature

If I dont like someone's music, it does mean that they are not "good" in my opinion.

"Skilled" is not dependant on personal opinions though, as long as the skill can be measured in some way.

I dont like Hendrix. I dont think his music is good. That has no effect on how skilled of a guitar player he is.

"Greatness" is a different matter, and seems to rely on a whole collection of factors.