The Complete Military History of France

[Jonesie]

Originally posted by Load SM5
You forgot one....

"Bonjourrrrrrrrr ya chesse eating surrender monkeys!"
---Groundskeeper Willie

ROTFLMAO!!!! Good one, Jeff!

Jonesie

[Jonesie]

Here ya go...

French:
GroundsKeeper Willie

Germans:
Mr. Burns

Enjoy! ~ Jonesie

[Collegeboy]

Got to love propoganda.

[1stdeadeye]

joke?

Originally posted by Collegeboy
Got to love propoganda.

Or comedy?

You cheese eating surrender monkey!

[Greg98]

man the initial post has alot of inaccuracies.....but I would like to point out at least one incredible french military unit... The Foreign Legion! Those guys are bad ***, and not just a bunch of criminals like in the past. They are incredibly trained (every soldier specializes in jungle warfare, deep jungle patrolling and insertion, airborne, heliborne operations, desert, and countless other things) and you americans shouldn't forget they protected the left flank of the american armoured columns in desert storm, and did a hell of a job too! Norman Shwartzkov (sorry I can't spell his name) publicly commended them on a job well done, and accepted one of their highest medals, as well he became an honorary member. So yes france has had it tough, but let's not overgeneralize their military prowess (or lack thereof). just because alot of countries don't agree with you doesn't mean they are wrong! just thought i'd share about the FL, just read a book on them, and there was a great TV show on about them last night, they are seriously hardcore!

[Sooky]

Yes, hasn't the French bashing gone on long enough??? People seem to be going overboard with this... Not just this thread, but several over the past month or so.

[Smoke]

Originally posted by Greg98
man the initial post has alot of inaccuracies.....but I would like to point out at least one incredible french military unit... The Foreign Legion! Those guys are bad ***, and not just a bunch of criminals like in the past. They are incredibly trained (every soldier specializes in jungle warfare, deep jungle patrolling and insertion, airborne, heliborne operations, desert, and countless other things) and you americans shouldn't forget they protected the left flank of the american armoured columns in desert storm, and did a hell of a job too! Norman Shwartzkov (sorry I can't spell his name) publicly commended them on a job well done, and accepted one of their highest medals, as well he became an honorary member. So yes france has had it tough, but let's not overgeneralize their military prowess (or lack thereof). just because alot of countries don't agree with you doesn't mean they are wrong! just thought i'd share about the FL, just read a book on them, and there was a great TV show on about them last night, they are seriously hardcore!

Point taken, but so are the S.E.A.L.S, or the Marines for that matter. I'd take one marine over any other kind of soldier in the world.

[Johnny_Reb]

^^^^^^^ Lets not forget Delta Force or the Green Berets By the way weren't the French Foreign Legion the unit that Napolean abadoned? I may be wrong but I'm pretty sure that was them.

[Smoke]

Originally posted by Johnny_Reb
^^^^^^^ Lets not forget Delta Force or the Green Berets By the way weren't the French Foreign Legion the unit that Napolean abadoned? I may be wrong but I'm pretty sure that was them.

^^^^But you forget, they're the ARMY!

[1stdeadeye]

French Special Forces sure are tough!

You are right, the French Special Forces sure are tough! They were able to sink the Rainbow Warrior without incurring a single casualty!

The last naval engagement the French won was against Greenpeace! (I actually supported them on that one )

[Greg98]

Originally posted by automagfreek


Point taken, but so are the S.E.A.L.S, or the Marines for that matter. I'd take one marine over any other kind of soldier in the world.

I don't know about that....being Canadian, I'd be to tempted to take a JTF2 member (very, very little is known about them) but let's not forget other, less romanticized (sp?) special forces: The Russian Spetsnaz are very tough, the Israeli Special forces group (don't recall their name) have an indredible wealth of experience, the German GSG-9 are good, the Spanish have dealt with internal conflict for many years, and last but certainly not least the SAS. Those guys have been around since world war two and in many dirty conflicts after that. Their counter insurgency operations in Malaya rewrote the book on fighting in jungles, and their other operations are all over history books. I think it's a tad irrational for you to take a Marine over ANY other soldier. I'm assuming you want to be a marine or are a marine, because any reasonable person would take a special forces soldier over a regular force marine....but maybe I too am biased, my application to the army infantry is already in go army

[Greg98]

Re: French Special Forces sure are tough!

Originally posted by 1stdeadeye
You are right, the French Special Forces sure are tough! They were able to sink the Rainbow Warrior without incurring a single casualty!

The last naval engagement the French won was against Greenpeace! (I actually supported them on that one )

I know you are being sarcastic, but look up some info on the foreign legion, it really is an incredible unit. They've done some truly amazing things that noone seems to know about. Basically the French government sends them to any place they don't want Frenchmen to die in. Then if they succeed, the regular French army goes in and gets the "glory", but if they fail, it was just a bunch of foreigners!

ya gotta admit, thats pretty clever!

[1stdeadeye]

Re: Re: French Special Forces sure are tough!

Originally posted by Greg98


I know you are being sarcastic, but look up some info on the foreign legion, it really is an incredible unit. They've done some truly amazing things that noone seems to know about. Basically the French government sends them to any place they don't want Frenchmen to die in. Then if they succeed, the regular French army goes in and gets the "glory", but if they fail, it was just a bunch of foreigners!

ya gotta admit, thats pretty clever!

You are making PGOP's point. For a real fight, the French bring in Foreigners! BTW, Frenchmen are now allowed to join the foreign legion.

[Greg98]

thats why it's called the "Foreign" legion! duh!

[aaron_mag]

You take a human being and train them to be tough they are going to be pretty darn tough no matter what the nationality. Friend of mine flies helicopters for the army and seems to think the British Special Forces are really tough. Regardless they are probably all tougher than a middle aged (early 30s) office worker like myself!!!

But seriously we in the United States puff up our chest way too much. Do you know that the most efficient automotive plants in North America are in Canada? Is it because the Canadian workers work so much harder than in the United States? Nope. It is because the car manufacturers discovered that they could produce automobiles at lower costs in Canada and so they invested the technology in Canada.

I don't understand our need to wave our flag in front of everyones faces. We are a great nation. No one doubts that. We don't need to shove it in everyones face every chance we get. There are other great nations out there. Acknowedging that should not detract from pride in our own nation.