A shocking development

[hitech]

Oaky, I wasn't going to post this. However, other semi-political issues have been posted and left up, so here goes. The following was an email sent to me by a friend. Following it is my initial response.


CAN THIS BE TRUE?
REMEMBER the MUSLIM bombing of PanAm Flight 103!
REMEMBER the MUSLIM bombing of the World Trade Center in 1993!
REMEMBER the MUSLIM bombing of the Marine barracks in Lebanon!
REMEMBER the MUSLIM bombing of the military barracks in Saudi Arabia!
REMEMBER the MUSLIM bombing of the American Embassies in Africa!
REMEMBER the MUSLIM bombing of the USS COLE!
REMEMBER the MUSLIM attack on the Twin Towers on 9/11/2001!
REMEMBER all the AMERICAN lives that were lost in those vicious MUSLIM attacks!

Now the United States Postal Service REMEMBERS and HONORS the EID MUSLIM holiday season with a commemorative first class holiday postage stamp. REMEMBER to adamantly and vocally BOYCOTT this stamp when purchasing your stamps at the post office. To use this stamp would be a slap in the face to all those AMERICANS who died at the hands of those whom this stamp honors. REMEMBER to pass this along to every patriotic AMERICAN you know, whether by e-mail or otherwise.


And my initial response


Bigotry run amok.
Are you willing to take responsibility for every atrocity committed by an American? Oklahoma City mean anything to you? Did you know that American Samoa didn't even know what child molestation was before we got there (because it didn't happen)? Don't fall into the trap of associating what small groups of radicals do with everyone. That's bigotry, and I am truly offended.

Edit: Fixed typeo

[irbodden]

Stupidity..

Nothing wrong with Muslims, those terrorists are NOT 'muslims'.

[shartley]

[irbodden]

Originally posted by shartley

That's not what the email is arguing though.

It's saying we shouldn't support anything Muslim because Muslims all want to kill us, which is obviously untrue.

[shartley]

Originally posted by irbodden


That's not what the email is arguing though.

It's saying we shouldn't support anything Muslim because Muslims all want to kill us, which is obviously untrue.

I understand that.... see how I made my post in two parts?

[hitech]

Originally posted by shartley
With that said.. the US Postal Service has NO place celebrating any religious thing, be it for ANY reason.

I am usually a big separation of Church and State type, but having postage stamps that "honor" religious holidays doesn't bother me personally. It also doesn't bother me if someone else thinks it is wrong.

I didn't post all the emails back and forth with another friend who at first was in full support of the original email. He ended up saying that he did not believe it was appropriate at this time to come out with such a stamp. His analogy was that not all Catholics are child molesters but he doesn't think a Catholic stamp would be appropriate at this time. I don't have a problem with that view. I just thought you would appreciate a "Time and place" argument being used by someone else.

[shartley]

Originally posted by hitech
I am usually a big separation of Church and State type, but having postage stamps that "honor" religious holidays doesn't bother me personally. It also doesn't bother me if someone else thinks it is wrong.

I didn't post all the emails back and forth with another friend who at first was in full support of the original email. He ended up saying that he did not believe it was appropriate at this time to come out with such a stamp. His analogy was that not all Catholics are child molesters but he doesn't think a Catholic stamp would be appropriate at this time. I don't have a problem with that view. I just thought you would appreciate a "Time and place" argument being used by someone else.

[yeahthatsme]

can you say IGNORANCE!?!?!?!?!

just because some muslims (exremist muslims) did terrible things doesnt mean the religion condones it.


i like this analagy(sp?):

terrorism is to muslims as ______ is to christianity

can you guess what the blank is?

[hitech]

Originally posted by shartley
So, what is good for one, is good for ALL... but they had better do it across the board. No picking and choosing.

I agree. That would be a big thing for me also. A friend of mine who works for a bank went to a "diversity" training class. They were told a story about how a black man had come into a large sum of money and would only work with another blank person at the bank. They went on to say how wonderful it was that the banks hiring policies were "diverse" and they could accommodate him. My friend asked, Isn't that discrimination? If the person was caucasian and would only work with caucasians...

[Hexis]

While the Postal Service is an arm of the Govenrment, I don't think they should be limited within reason to specific types of Stamps. If they can do Elvis stamps, they can do Religious stamps.

They are just an option, you can get plain stamps if you would rather.

The terrorists are clearly not muslim. Someone who pretends they are has a pretty drastic misunderstanding of some of the core muslim beliefs.

[yeahthatsme]

ok, heres the whole analagy:

terrorist are to muslimes as the KKK is to christianity.

[deathstalker]

Originally posted by shartley

First off, AWESOME KEYCHAIN!!!

Anyway, I could take your argument and logically conclude that we should not celebrate the life of Martin Luther King Jr. because he was a minister. Do you think that we should not have a holiday simply because he was a man of God?

[Thordic]

The USPS isn't the government, though, its a corporation wholly owned by the government, I beleive.

It isn't a political organization in any case, so I don't know if church and state even matters in this case.

[shartley]

Originally posted by deathstalker
First off, AWESOME KEYCHAIN!!!

Anyway, I could take your argument and logically conclude that we should not celebrate the life of Martin Luther King Jr. because he was a minister. Do you think that we should not have a holiday simply because he was a man of God?

[shartley]

Originally posted by Thordic
The USPS isn't the government, though, its a corporation wholly owned by the government, I beleive.

It isn't a political organization in any case, so I don't know if church and state even matters in this case.

Very true. But because it is funded with Tax Dollars and controlled wholly by the Government, it is a Church and State issue.