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  • beam
    The end.
    • May 2001
    • 2036

    #1

    If we go...

    ...to this war with Iraq, every American (whether they supported the war or not) needs to support and honor the men and women who fought when they return.

    I am getting this sickening feeling that we are far enough removed from the Vietnam era that most Americans (young ones especially) don't know what kind of horror it is for a soldier to come home to mocking, spitting, badgering, hate.

    I was not in the military. However, I have a theory as to why that may be. You see, both my grandpas served in WWII. To most of the world, America especially, they were heroes. When the time came, my father enlisted in the Air Force and served in Thailand during Vietnam. His welcome home was a bit different. He may have thought that he would come home to the same welcome as his dad. Hometown parades, assemblies, dinners. Wrong. Why didn't I enter the military? I didn't think my dad was a hero. I have not talked to him EVER in my 28 years of life about his experiences in Vietnam. I have heard him mention different stories, like how sweet the sound of an F-4 is. And how you can always tell the new guys when they come into land. But I have never discussed with him his experience upon returning home. Do we understand what a dispicable thing it was to treat men, some of whom had no choice, with such disdain?

    So, my duty is this: Eventhough I never have served in the armed forces, I will fulfill my role as an American and support the men and women who defend me. I HAVE to do this wether I agree with the conflict or not. It is not their decision on which battles to fight. That is left up to the elected officials that I help put in office. Any frustration should be directed to them at the next election, not to soldiers at the next arriving flight.

    If you are in the military or have been, please don't reply to this thread and thank me, it's my job to thank you.

    I didn't intend for this thread to be some emotional/overly-patriotic/wish-wash. If it comes across as such, ignore it. I just wanted to give some of us a heads up, especially young ones. It may or may not happen. But if your friends all start thinking it's cool to dog on soldiers, you better take a stand and quash that crap right then and there!
    <---Should be banned for circumventing the cuss filter.
  • Johnny_Reb
    Method
    • Jan 2003
    • 407

    #2
    Amen I completely agree with you man.

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    • Python14
      Norsk
      • Jun 2001
      • 3343

      #3
      You don't have to worry about this youngin'. I have the upmost respect for someone who puts their life on the line for us and our country. I'll be sure everyone I know has this respect too.
      BLOODY MURDER!

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      • Tunaman
        Specialized AGD Tech

        • Dec 2000
        • 8643

        #4
        Bravo! Well said. We will welcome them back with all of the respect that they deserve. I love this great country of ours, and if the great leaders that we have elected say its time...its time. God bless America, and all who have fought for our freedom.
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        • shartley
          paintball player
          • Mar 2001
          • 9169

          #5

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          its more like a paper cut that has primadonna's yelling murder... - Glickman

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          • magking1971
            Team Fart Factory
            • May 2001
            • 1089

            #6
            ALL solders have my utmost respect.

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            • Jack_Dubious
              ubi dubium ibi libertas
              • Apr 2002
              • 922

              #7
              While Im totally against this war, I agree 100% with Beams statement.


              JDub

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              • Jack_Dubious
                ubi dubium ibi libertas
                • Apr 2002
                • 922

                #8
                Originally posted by shartley
                I was unsupportive of Clinton during his presidency...good thing I didnt come around you then.

                Bush is the President of the United States and I am a Citizen. Its my *right* to question the actions of the President. He works for me. (and you)


                JDub

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                • shartley
                  paintball player
                  • Mar 2001
                  • 9169

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Jack_Dubious


                  I was unsupportive of Clinton during his presidency...good thing I didnt come around you then.

                  Bush is the President of the United States and I am a Citizen. Its my *right* to question the actions of the President. He works for me. (and you)


                  JDub

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                  its more like a paper cut that has primadonna's yelling murder... - Glickman

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                  • Jack_Dubious
                    ubi dubium ibi libertas
                    • Apr 2002
                    • 922

                    #10
                    Originally posted by shartley
                    Shartley Ive seen you take on large groups of ninja agitators without breaking a sweat!

                    Sorry, I was not sure what you meant. In your statement you just talked about "support" and not "burning effigies, talk of assination, etc"....so I took "support" to mean any kind of support. Hope you understand.


                    JDub

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                    • cphilip
                      Former Moderator

                      • Jun 2026
                      • 16216

                      #11
                      time to put aside politics and get behind your country and countrymen.


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                      • shartley
                        paintball player
                        • Mar 2001
                        • 9169

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Jack_Dubious
                        Shartley Ive seen you take on large groups of ninja agitators without breaking a sweat!

                        Sorry, I was not sure what you meant. In your statement you just talked about "support" and not "burning effigies, talk of assination, etc"....so I took "support" to mean any kind of support. Hope you understand.


                        JDub

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                        its more like a paper cut that has primadonna's yelling murder... - Glickman

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                        • beam
                          The end.
                          • May 2001
                          • 2036

                          #13
                          Ninja agitators!! hahaha had me ROTF!

                          And shartley, I had to do a double take....i thought you called yourself an average poser.

                          The thing that started this post was that this afternoon for lunch, I saw a table of Servicemen in BDUs sitting at a table, and I actually wanted to go over to them and thank them. (I didn't cause that wouldve freaked them out)

                          But then I wondered if they feel like the whole world and half of America is against them. I mean, if the US acts unilaterally without the UN, I would feel alone.
                          <---Should be banned for circumventing the cuss filter.

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                          • Kevmaster
                            Owners Group Div: Director
                            • Oct 2001
                            • 5475

                            #14
                            i couldnt agree more. When our country is at war, whether you personally believe in this war or not, we must stand firm and support or soldiers. They are on the front lines risking their lives for the security of our country. They are being killed so that I can continue to type here right now on my computer.

                            There really isnt much more honorable than being a soldier

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                            • aaron_mag
                              Registered User
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 1375

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Jack_Dubious


                              I was unsupportive of Clinton during his presidency...good thing I didnt come around you then.

                              Bush is the President of the United States and I am a Citizen. Its my *right* to question the actions of the President. He works for me. (and you)


                              JDub
                              I'm with JDub. I would not tolerate disrespect against soldiers like my cousin. This is different, however, than blind faith in the leaders of our country. I will always reserve my right to question the actions of those leaders. Anything else is UN-american!
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