Violent video games - need AO's help

[emag_slurpee]

Here ya Go Huey, This page have screenies, vid clips, and more on Thrill Kill.

http://mediaviewer.ign.com/ignMediaPage.jsp?channel_id=60&object_id=3823&adtag=network=ign&site=psx&pagetype=medialist&page_title=Thrill%20Kill

Good Luck With Your Project!

[Jonesie]

My vote goes to the GTA series. I have 3 and have played VC. They're great!

Later ~ Jonesie

[Hamster Huey]

Man - that is one messed up game...

I want to clarify my request a bit: I'm looking for games that are BOTH very realistic and very violent. One of my goals is to "shock and awe" the audience with the level of realism that can be achieved in modern violent games. So strategy games are probably out, just because they're too impersonal and can't achieve the level of detail that a good FPS can.

Oooh...carmageddon. With a name like that you can't go wrong.

[Rancid Milk]

SOF2 is pretty bad in sp mode. Use the 12-gauge, it's not too pretty.

GTA3 isn't too gory in my book, but it is very talked about, you could show people what all the "hype" is about it.

[Python14]

The Getaway is more violent and gory than any of the GTA series(I have all of them). I think GTA 3 and Vice city are more hype than truth. They aren't violent, more just corrupting. A little kid playing it won't be as much affected by the shooting as much as he/she will be affected by the simple wrong doing in the game.

[gibby]

Question: So you're showing violence in video games to people who might not be aware of what's out there...but what are your motives? Is it to inform people, or push the blame on video games for society's shotcomings?

I hope that if it's for informative reasons, that you give both sides. Society's views, the lack of supervision of parents and not taking the initiative to make sure they kids know what's real and what's not, between right and wrong. Also, ask what the gamers think. Are they influenced by what they're doing? Are they desensitized? Or is it their way of releasing stress? There are pros and cons to both sides.

[Rancid Milk]

good point gibby, I just assumed that it was informative reasons and not blaming video games.

Thanks for bringing that up

[Hamster Huey]

Video games are all evil, corrupting tools of destruction that should be removed from the face of the earth!!!

Just kidding

I was wondering when someone was going to ask about my motives; I'm glad someone finally did. My goals in this presentation are four-fold:

1) Give epidemiologic data on video game play. How many kids play, for how long, in what kind of environment, etc.

2) Provide a qualitative description of what modern video games can be like. I think a lot of my audience has no clue about what is potentially out there. This is where you guys come in.

3) Present the data and research collected so far on violent video games and their relationship, if any, to violent behavior. Just the facts, ma'am, just the facts.

4) Using the data provided, give appropriate recommendations and provide information about useful tools (eg. ESRB rating system).

I know that I personally was very upset when it seemed that everyone was all too eager to blame Doom, Quake, etc. for the Columbine tragedy. Being an avid gamer myself, and having associated with many avid gamers, I felt very strongly that video games were being scapegoated. But at the same time, I think we can all agree that letting your 8-year-old play GTA: Vice City for 6 hours straight all alone in a windowless room in your basement is probably not a good idea. The idea behind this presentation is to inform and give suggestions, not lay blame. I don't think that many are even aware of this being an issue; I think it is and will only become increasingly so, and I want to bring it into the light. Does that explain things?

[FutureMagOwner]

Originally posted by Thordic
He beat me to it. The original version of Thrill Kill was banned it was so gory.

Carmageddon is pretty good too You run over pedestrians for points.

CARMAGEDDON OWNS!!!! that game is awesome i have that and the splat pack i didnt have money to buy the 2nd one a couple years ago then the next time i went to eb it was gone that gameis wicked cool!!! if you want some good ole gore i recommend the fallout series its not very graphically super but if you critical hit someone and they die(even if you kick them in the groin) they blow into chunks etc and you can blow up corpses afterwards with dynomite(i recommend using dynomite to blow up doors not people though)

[Warewolf50]

Anyone who thinks Vice City isnt very gory, what are u talking about. That is the only game that i have ever seen where when u kill someone with a chainsaw blood splatters on the screen, but the chainsaw thing is the only really really gory thing that i can remember in VC.

[Rancid Milk]

Hamster Huey, from what you just posted, it sounds like you are giving this presentation to a group of people that may think that "video games are the devil". Another thig that you mght try is to show them some of the other games out there too, like sports games, and some of the simulators out there, that way they can get a brief view of all of gaming and not just the blood and guts.

I don't know what you mean by saying

"I think a lot of my audience has no clue about what is potentially out there"

Do you mean what video games are capable of? or what games can do to "ruin kids minds", or just seem like they have never played/heard about video games ever?

This would help us with giving you things that could be helpful THROUGHOUT your presentation.

[Rancid Milk]

Also, if you want a game with pointless violence and ALOT of it, there's always State Of Emergency

[Hamster Huey]

Originally posted by Rancid Milk
Do you mean what video games are capable of? or what games can do to "ruin kids minds", or just seem like they have never played/heard about video games ever?

I mean what video games are capable of. The group I'm addressing will be a group of predominantly pediatricians. Some will be young, some will be old, but I think there's a gap between the experiences (if any) they may have had and the experiences that modern gamers (esp. kids) have. I intend to close that gap.

I'm choosing to show violent games because a. My presentation is on video game violence, b. The evolution of Mario doesn't particularly interest anyone, and c. I hope for the shock to be a call to attention/action. I plan, however, to make clear that this is not a representative sampling of what's out there.

[Sparq]

SOF/SOF2, Carmageddon 2, and can you say AvP2?

Blake Stone was pretty nasty in it's day too.

As the alien chestburster in AvP2 you begin the level INSIDE someone's ribcage...and must chew your way out through their vital organs.

[FlagCarrier]

definitely SOF II.
maybe unreal tourney 2003
not that much blood or anything, i just can't think of much.
all of the GTA games may have "questionable" content, but they aren't as bloody as some of the other games out there.