RIAA and Kazaa

[AngelBoy]

I looked around but couldnt find another thread on this. Just saw in the paper the other day about RIAA trying to sue some of the people who use Kazaa to get MP3s. Anyone got anymore info on this?

[Lopy-slopy]

All I know is that up here in canada I'm safe for now. We have less stiff coppyright laws. Have fun getting sued.

BTW. They don't have much chance at stopping this and will probibly stop after a while. Right now they are foucsing on colleges in the us. If you don't go to college than you should be fine for now.

[pbzmag]

I heard that will mainly go for the ones who has huge amountsof mp3's available. If you just have a few, or have sharing off, you should be fine.

[bornl33t]

my isp istalking about loging traffic for RIAA but if they do I'm gonna quit.

[Automaggin2]

Originally posted by Heat
my isp istalking about loging traffic for RIAA but if they do I'm gonna quit.

I dunno if they are allowed to do that. check your user agreement and stuff with your ISP. Sounds like a legal battle could persue if this happens.


If you signed anything when you signed up, and they alter it, big time legal battle.

[e mag]

Originally posted by Automaggin2




I dunno if they are allowed to do that. check your user agreement and stuff with your ISP. Sounds like a legal battle could persue if this happens.


If you signed anything when you signed up, and they alter it, big time legal battle.

with some agreements like that there is a clause that says the agreement is subject to change and if it does they will notify you. the riaa could also just set up a site and log all ip's that download from it.

[bluefan101]

The RIAA is threatening to direct lawsuits toward individuals who are offering large amounts of music for sharing, instead of going after the individuals actually searching for the music. I wonder if they'd sue me for letting a friend of mine borrow my cd collection to copy? Same concept, except I'd only be letting one friend borrow them at a time. Any of you remember taping songs off the radio, or recording a boxing match so your friend could watch it later? I fail to see the difference.

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[AcemanPB]

The funny thing is I read somewhere that CD sales have actually increased since Kazaa and Napster.

I'm not saying file sharing software was the cause of the increased record sales, I'm just saying it certinally isn't going down...

I know I'll use Kazaa to download songs from various artist and if I like them enough I will go out and buy their CD. I would have not known about alot the bands I listen to if it wasn't for Napster and Kazaa.

Regardless I guess we will be seeing some lawsuits soon, unless the RIAA was just bluffing.

[Lopy-slopy]

The funny thing is I read somewhere that CD sales have actually increased since Kazaa and Napster.

I don't know about that. The record industry is in bad shape right now compared to how it's been in the past. If they wern't they wouldn't have started all of these law suits and the adds on tv to try and get people to actualy buy CD's more.
No matter what you say, downloading music is not legal cuz of copyright laws. But it's become so mainstreem that it is almost imposible to stop. They can't shut down Kazza cuz it's not eligal. It's just a program that lets people share files. But soon the music industry is going to find a way to get money from people, or they will go bankrupt. Sure, they do take in alot of money, but they also spend alot on artists. And only 3/10 bands actualy turn a profet for the record company. You may see the record company as a big titan that doesn't need your money and would rather give it right to the band by either going to a concert or donating money right to them using one of the services that are now set up on the internet, but without the record companies there would be no big music stars.
I have nothing against downloading music, but if you like the song's at least go out and buy a single from that band. Cuz without lots people buying music there will be none.

[MantisMag]

kazaa and morpheus have been cleared by the courts. because they can share any file they have a lot of legitimate uses. morpheus has been instrumental in open source project distributions. the court ruled that they can't be held accountable for how their clients make use of their network. the riaa plans to appeal.

verizon has been ordered to reveal the names of two file sharers. verizon plans to appeal and attempted to get an injunction until then but the court refused. they have to reveal the names now. if they win the appeal i don't know what's going to happen. they can't exactly take back the information once they've given the names to the riaa.

as of right now the riaa has given up on attacking services. their current strategy is to target individual sharers. they're going after large sharers but there's some speculation as to what constitutes a large sharer and why the riaa is being so vague. most think it's a scare tactic. they may even sue a relatively small sharer just to intimidate people by showing that they'll come after anyone. doesn't matter how much or little you're sharing. you're not safe from the riaa.

[shartley]

OJ Simpson was cleared by the courts for the murder of Nicole Simpson.

[FreshmanBob]

if you guys want kazaa with out all the adware hit up www.kazaalite.com

I'm not worried about being sued, I only have about 150 songs on my pc.

[GT]

im confused how tehy find out who you are in kaza. Just type in whatever crap you want in the info screen and start dling.
jb

[ShooterJM]

I just find it interesting that the riaa is giving the same arguments against mp3s as they did against fm radio.

Personally I think the RIAA are fools and deserve to be destroyed financially. People have been clamoring for years for a digital medium and they purposfully dragged their feet. If they had one freakin ounce of foresight they could be turning a profit, piracy would be equal to CD's and tapes, and they wouldn't be experiancing a backlash. But hey. Nothing like persecuting your customers to make them want to buy your product....

[bluefan101]

I'm in agreeance with most of you. The RIAA lost its necessity with the dawn of the digital age. I think that the artists need to adapt to the changing format and let the RIAA and the media conglomerates sort the rest out for themselves. Most of the music that I listen to, and I'm sure some of you are the same, is not stuff you find on the radio or in the local cd shop. Most of the stuff that I want comes from musicians and artists who aren't signed with a major record label, but who instead run their own recording studios and put music out on thier own indepedent labels, seperate from that of big media labels like Interscope. It's the small record labels that aren't pitching a bizitch, because they aren't investing millions of dollars into a "star" that sounds like everyone else. *sidenote* I love ranting about this stuff.
Copywrite laws weren't established to protect big business from slowing profits and declining sales. The laws were established to make sure that musicians, artist and inventors were given proper credit any time their music, art or ideas were used.
For those of you who don't know me, which is all of you pretty much, I've been a professional DJ for about 7 years, and every year I pay a lot of money, last year about $300+, to "a music company" for the "right" to play music in a public forum. On top of that each time I buy a cd or record, I pay 15-20$ per CD and about 5-15$ for a record. And then if I recieve any type of music from a record pool or mass mailing, I have to pay for that also. All in all, every year I give anywhere from 500-1000$ back to the music industry for the "right" to play their music. And this is the same for DJs and nightclub owners all over. I know that some those multi-million dollar companies have to be struggling, because they aren't making enough from record sales, but they make enough off of people that actually work in the music industry. This has always been my biggest gripe with how big business turns the law around so it seems as though they are the victim, being mercilessly attacked by us...the savage working class...trying to steal "their" profits. All the while their profits come from raping the general public of their hard earned cash, while screaming "more...more."
You can not agree with my opinion all you want to, it doesn't hurt my feelings. I won't curl up into a ball and cry. The beauty of freedom of speech is that one man can argue his/her idea at the top of their lungs, and have someone standing directly across from them screaming the exact opposite. Every one is entitled to their own ideas, just be prepared to defend them.
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