help?

[poolshark5226]

I use tortex picks...
for those of you who dont know, tortex=teh gross

[-Carnifex-]

Originally posted by poolshark5226
There's NO point in making me study for SAT's over a year before I have to take them

Yes there is.

[poolshark5226]

in the summer? i dont disagree that SAT's are important and so is studying for them, but theres a time and a place to do things, and summer vacation isnt my time to study for a test that I'm going to take in over a year

[Smegma]

Originally posted by poolshark5226
in the summer? i dont disagree that SAT's are important and so is studying for them, but theres a time and a place to do things, and summer vacation isnt my time to study for a test that I'm going to take in over a year

THERE IS A POINT! Dont you understand? Your parents love and care for you; they just want the best for you. If you study, you will do better, and until your 18, it's not your time, it's your parents.

[Bad_Dog]

a) I am a fat lazy slob
b) I never finish what I start
c) I take no responcibility for anything
d) I am totally irrisponsible (c and d are 2 different things)
e) I USED to have talents
f) I USED to be gifted
g) I will have no future and will go to a crappy community college (besed on 2 C's that I got)
now I "can't make any of my bull**** promises, and [I] have to make things happen NOW..." If I "dont find something worthwhile to do, [he'll] make me do something worthwhile".

First off it seems that talking about how your dad frustrates you is making you feel better, so keep doing it as long as it takes your mind off of smoking. Next thing (heres my background) I'm 16 and going into my junior year of highcschool, My dad likes to drink alot, and at times he comes home intoxicated 4 to 5 nights a week. It gets extremely nerve wrecking especially when he downgrades me and talks of me negatively, so whenever he does it regardless of the situation or outcome of the arguement I'll proove him wrong. Example: if he seys I'm lazy and I dont do anything during the day, I'll wait till he's sitting down and watching tv or somthing (acting lazy) and then proceed to clean the house, and directly get his attention. I'll make alot of noise, or stand in front of the tv so he'll understand that I am taking direct action against what he said. Heres where this all comes into play, take every one of the things your dad told you (I quoted them above) and proove him wrong, if you just do one action (3min to 5min each) pertaining to everything he's upset about, you have something to defend yourself with if he confronts you about it again. And better yet, it'll keep your mind off of smoking. Every time you get a craving, pretend your dad just yelled at you and proove him wrong (even if he really did never yell at you).

And just as a suggestion, take KornKamp02's advise and gradually alert your parents of your goal to quit. A good idea to break the news to them might be to gather up all the cigaretts that your dad leaves laying around (like you said) and stash them untill you acquire a reasonable amount. Then one day just make a pile on the table or in the middle of the floor, and when your parents confront you pertaining to the large sum of cigaretts that just appeared out of nowhere, shrug, and casually tell them that those are the cigaretts that you COULD HAVE but CHOSE NOT TO indulge upon in your quest to break the habbit...

Thats my $0.02 on the subject, take it any way you choose to...

~Kyle

[EsPo]

If you plan on going to any concerts any time soon.. cancel. At any of the shows that you or I would go (with the exception of ska shows).. the place would be filled with smoke.. and you'd have to give in. Ive seen plenty of people break in at shows.

[KornKamp02]

^ and the smoke at alot of the concerts I go to aren't usually coming from a cigarette so that makes it worse...

[EsPo]

Originally posted by KornKamp02
^ and the smoke at alot of the concerts I go to aren't usually coming from a cigarette so that makes it worse...

Why would that make it worse?

He never said he was quitting THAT kind of smoking (i think we're on the same track)

I'm pretty sure THAT kind of smoke is at 'most any concert.... 'cept classical and country.

We were talking about crack right...

[KornKamp02]

We were talking about crack, weed, and any other smokable drug. I was simply saying that he shouldn't get into drugs because his life isn't going as well as he wants.

[poolshark5226]

well as for pot, been there, done that, still doing that. I have no desire to quit pot right now (I am at the end of the summer) and have quit before...quitting pot is easy. SMoking cigs is all around more harmful to me, and it's a hell of a lot harder to shake nicotene than THC.

[KornKamp02]

Originally posted by poolshark5226
well as for pot, been there, done that, still doing that. I have no desire to quit pot right now (I am at the end of the summer) and have quit before...quitting pot is easy. SMoking cigs is all around more harmful to me, and it's a hell of a lot harder to shake nicotene than THC.

I seriously have pity for you....

[poolshark5226]

Originally posted by KornKamp02
I seriously have pity for you....

Why's that?

[Smegma]

SMoking cigs is all around more harmful to me, and it's a hell of a lot harder to shake nicotene than THC.

You do know that marijuana has hundreds more carcinogens than cigs right? It's definantly more harmful for you than "regular" smoking, there's a reason why it's illegal.

[poolshark5226]

1) When's the last time you heard of a death directly attributed to weed smoking? Especially a cancer death?
2) There certainly is a reason that it's illegal. I'd gladly explain it, except I didnt start this thread for a mj debate. If you want the story about why mj is illegal and my arguements for it to be legal, go to my page www.pcpages.com/farkshat and go to "sweet leaf". it hasnt been updated in a while and the pic that i wanted isnt there, but i gotta say its a good arguement.
but like I said, I didnt start this thread for that, I started it for help with nicotene withdrawl symptoms

[Smegma]

Keep telling yourself that you aren't doing harm to your body when you smoke anything, that will keep you safe . Just because you havent heard of a death from smoking pot doesnt mean that it cant cause cancer and it wont kill you.

Now back on track: your problem with quiting smoking.
Your doing a great job! Keep up with the good work, i cant personally say that i feel what you are experiencing, but i have seen it, and i would expect that its very difficult.

More suggestions to help you. Keep very busy, dont allow yourself the time to smoke, some hobby might help. Stay w/ people you wouldnt normally smoke around, you cant somke around them right. (I suggest telling your parents, its going to be even harder quiting alone. Im sure that they will be happy to know htat you are quiting and will help you along your way. W/ their help, you could get some patches or gum, that will help you a bunch.)

BTW, I feel that anything that can impare your judgement and reflexes should be illegal, for obvious reasons. Lets end the discussing at that. This thread is to help him w/ quitting his smoking, not to debate pot.