Top 10 Baseball Players

[bunkermaster10]

MVP

I also agree with Pujols if Cardinals make it. I also think Gary S. might be a good runner for NL MVP IMO.

[Johnny_Reb]

I also think Gary S. might be a good runner for NL MVP IMO.

Hed be a good pick but the Braves are always gonna make the playoffs so Pujols would have the better chance.

WS=Yanks vs. Giants, Yanks win in 6 games.:)

[LittMag]

I guess this doesn't qualify someone as one of the 10 best in baseball...

SET MAJOR LEAGUE RECORD FOR MOST INTENTIONAL WALKS, CAREER: 355
SET MAJOR LEAGUE RECORD FOR MOST HOMERUNS, SINGLE SEASON: 73, 2001
SET MAJOR LEAGUE RECORD FOR MOST HR/100 OUTS, SINGLE SEASON: 22.12, 2001
SET MAJOR LEAGUE RECORD FOR MOST HR/100 PA, SINGLE SEASON: 10.99, 2001
SET MAJOR LEAGUE RECORD FOR MOST HR/100 AB, SINGLE SEASON: 15.34, 2001
SET MAJOR LEAGUE RECORD FOR MOST WALKS, SINGLE SEASON: 177, 2001
SET MAJOR LEAGUE RECORD FOR HIGHEST SLG, SINGLE SEASON: .863, 2001
SET MAJOR LEAGUE RECORD FOR HIGHEST OPS, SINGLE SEASON: 1.379, 2001
SET MAJOR LEAGUE RECORD FOR MOST RCAA, SINGLE SEASON: 173, 2001
SET MAJOR LEAGUE RECORD FOR HIGHEST TOTAL AVERAGE, SINGLE SEASON: 1.851, 2001
SET MAJOR LEAGUE RECORD FOR HIGHEST BPA, SINGLE SEASON: .907, 2001

LED NATIONAL LEAGUE IN RUNS, 1990S: 1091
LED NATIONAL LEAGUE IN HOMERUNS, 1990S: 361
LED NATIONAL LEAGUE IN HR/100 OUTS, 1990S: 9.84
LED NATIONAL LEAGUE IN HR/100 PA, 1990S: 5.87
LED NATIONAL LEAGUE IN HR/100 AB, 1990S: 7.38
LED NATIONAL LEAGUE IN RBI, 1990S: 1076
LED NATIONAL LEAGUE IN WALKS, 1990S: 1146
LED NATIONAL LEAGUE IN SLG, 1990S: .602
LED NATIONAL LEAGUE IN OBA, 1990S: .434
LED NATIONAL LEAGUE IN OPS, 1990S: 1.036
LED NATIONAL LEAGUE IN RUNS CREATED, 1990S: 1390
LED NATIONAL LEAGUE IN RCAA, 1990S: 745
LED NATIONAL LEAGUE IN TOTAL BASES, 1990S: 2944
LED NATIONAL LEAGUE IN EXTRA BASE HITS, 1990S: 702
LED NATIONAL LEAGUE IN TOTAL AVERAGE, 1990S: 1.216
LED NATIONAL LEAGUE IN BPA, 1990S: .698
LED NATIONAL LEAGUE IN INTENTIONAL WALKS, 1990S: 257

73 homeruns and 177 walks in the same season doesn't help, nor does 8 gold gloves or 5 MVPs. Maybe the only player in the 500/500 club doesn't help. He is the most dominating player of his era, if you need proof, just watch to see how pitchers react to him. He may be an ***, but he's one of the best players of all time.

[Johnny_Reb]

73 homeruns and 177 walks in the same season doesn't help, nor does 8 gold gloves or 5 MVPs. Maybe the only player in the 500/500 club doesn't help. He is the most dominating player of his era, if you need proof, just watch to see how pitchers react to him. He may be an ***, but he's one of the best players of all time.

True but there are also other things that keep him out of the top ten. While Bonds is very good thats all he is, very good. Hes not good enough to knock any of those players off.

1.Babe Ruth=cant compare.
2.Ted Willaims=never hit .400
3.Roger Hornsby=same as above
4.Willie Mayes=close but Willie was a complete player
5.Ty Cobb=lifetime .366, over 100 RBIs in the deaball era.
6.Lou Gehrig= career .300, over 100 RBIs, 2nd longest playign streak in baseball.
7.Hounus Wagner=best hitting shortstop, over 100 homers in the deadball era.
8.Stan Musial=career .350ish always hitting 30-40m homers, .702 slugging
9.Hank Aaron=most bases, most career homers, most RBIs
10.Mickey Mantle=always hit .300, 100 RBIs, if not plagued by a bad knee he couldve been the best ever.

Barry is up there no doubt. But when you factor in that, parks were larger, pitching was better, and there was no steroids, Barry just cant keep up.

[LittMag]

Originally posted by Johnny_Reb
True but there are also other things that keep him out of the top ten. While Bonds is very good thats all he is, very good. Hes not good enough to knock any of those players off.

Barry is up there no doubt. But when you factor in that, parks were larger, pitching was better, and there was no steroids, Barry just cant keep up.

So basically in order for a player to be one of the 10 best, they have to have an awesome batting average? You simply cannot compare athletes between eras, you just can't, they're playing under different circumstances, there were 12 teams(or something like that) back then, now there are 30. Back then pitchers pitched the entire game, now you have specialty pitchers, during a season, a hitter back then would have seen only a handful of pitchers, now they see hundreds in a season. I'm sorry, you just can't compare the two, you can keep going back and forth. When you look at how dominating Barry is now, you have to consider him one of the top 10.

As for the steriods issue. Steriods didn't help Bonds win 8 gold gloves, 5 MVPs, hit 647 home runs. Steriods doesn't cause pitchers to walk pitchers to walk Bonds this season 1 out of 4 times at bat. 1 out of 4! Steriods doesn't allow Bonds to reach base safely 15 consecutive time in a row.

[Johnny_Reb]

Like I said Barry's good, but he still cant compare to the guys on the top ten. Hes a good player, definetly in the top 20, but hes still not good enough.

Steriods didn't help Bonds win 8 gold gloves, 5 MVPs, hit 647 home runs.

True but is a player who probly uses them worthy of being in the top ten?

[Johnny_Reb]

Hehe off topic but I thought I just put down how the playoffs will work out.

AL
Mariners over White Sox
Yankees over As
Yankees over Mariners

NL
Braves over Cardinals
Giants over Phillies
Giants over Braves

WS
Yanks over Giants in 6 games

Whatdya guys think about my prediction? Any thing need to be changed?

[EsPo]

[QUOTE 4.Sammy Sosa
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NEVER... cheaters should die (in baseball anwyay)...

[Kevmaster]

Bonds is NOT one of the top 10 players of all time.

sure, hes been pretty amazing and will be a hall of famer first try...but hes not one of the 10 best ever. You cant compare his stats hes attained in the past 10 years to what it was before. Look at ERAs from the 20s and 30s and the 90s. Theres a full point difference. Look at home runs per game from then and now...now is MUCH bigger. Hitters are All stronger and bigger and pitchers have been minimized. MLB wants a marketable game...which means home runs.

as i said, barry is a GREAT player, prolly one of best players in the game today (although ARod would give him a run for his money and Roger Clemens has attained just as much as Barry if not more. Greg Maddux is right there beside Clemins.). However, Clemens and Maddux arn't close to the top 10...and barry wouldnt be ranked too far ahead of those two

[superdesk2007]

No particular order

Roberto Clemente
Cal Ripkin
Satchel Paige
Theres more I just can't remember them.

[Johnny_Reb]

Roberto Clemente

He was good but his career was ended too soon to be considered to be one of the best.

Cal Ripkin

Good but not top ten.

Satchel Paige

Also Good but he didnt have a long MLB career, had he not spent most of his career in the Negro Leagues he could easily be the best pitcher of all time.

[paintbattler]

Originally posted by Johnny_Reb
List of the best of the current players
1.Barry Bonds
2.A-Rod
3.Albert Pujols
4.Sammy Sosa
5.Dontrelle Willis
6.Roy Halladay
7.Mark Prior
8.Roger Clemens
9.Alfonso Soriano
10.Derek Jeter

take willis and prior off because they have only had one good year, and put sheffield, and roger clemens on that

[bunkermaster10]

Originally posted by paintbattler

take willis and prior off because they have only had one good year, and put sheffield, and roger clemens on that

I argee with sheffield and maybe with roger clemens, but if clemens is in there then Smoltz should be in there.

[Johnny_Reb]

Ok, Ill put in the changes:

1.Barry Bonds
2.A-Rod
3.Albert Pujols
4.Sammy Sosa
5.Gary Sheffield
6.Roy Halladay
7.hmmmm eitheir Riveria or Smoltz
8.Roger Clemens
9.Alfonso Soriano
10.Derek Jeter

[TigerMan]

My top 10 of all time:

1)Babe Ruth
2)Jackie Robinson
3)Hank Aaron
4)Ted Williams
5)Willie Mays
6)Pete Rose
7)Cy Young
8)Lou Gehrig
9)Mickey Mantle
10)Barry Bonds

Top 10 Current (over their careers):
1)Barry Bonds
2)Roger Clemens
3)Greg Maddux
4)Sammy Sosa
5)Randy Johnson
6)Ken Griffey, Jr. (pre injury days)
7)Rafael Palmeiro (greatest player that goes unknown)
8)Tom Glavine
9)Alex Rodriguez
10)Roberto Alomar