Arnold for Governor

[Gumby]

Originally posted by shartley

I HAVE to say this:

Being 'Pro-Choice' is the same as being 'Pro-Abortion'. Anytime you are giving someone the right and the choice to kill a LIVING human, you are allowing it. And that is nothing but murder, no matter how you 'warp' it.

[Albinonewt]

Wait a moment Gumby, we're trying to avoid being too partisan or issue related.

[Gumby]

Ya ya, I'm not being Pro- Republican.

It just really pisses me off when the abortion issue comes up. And people are pro-abortion, or pro-choice, whatever you want to call it.

I've stated my opinion. That's all that I wanted to say.

[shartley]

[Gumby]

No doubt that in certain circumstances abortion is needed, when the mother is in danger. I will agree with you on that one. But having an abortion just because you didn't think about the consequences of having sex is no excuse.

You can't even compare the death penalty to abortion. Killing an innocent newborn, and killing criminals convicted of serious crimes are two VERY DIFFERENT things, so don't compare the two.

And besides, were you trying to get back at me by dissing Texas? Nice try.

[shartley]

Originally posted by Gumby
No doubt that in certain circumstances abortion is needed, when the mother is in danger. I will agree with you on that one. But having an abortion just because you didn't think about the consequences of having sex is no excuse.

You can't even compare the death penalty to abortion. Killing an innocent newborn, and killing criminals convicted of serious crimes are two VERY DIFFERENT things, so don't compare the two.

And besides, were you trying to get back at me by dissing Texas? Nice try.

[Gumby]

Well, I just really don't like abortion. Except in the case of danger to the mother. Rape, and Incest, those are hard to cut, but I think that they still should have the baby and give it up for adoption. Like you said, it's hard to decide when someone's life is on the line.

I do believe that fetus' are living, they feel pain, eat (if you could call it that), and exhibit all the other characteristics of living organisms. Even if you don't believe they are living when you kill them, they were still GOING to be living.

Where did you live in TX. Probably pretty close to Tyler. Oh well, it does seem that we agree more than we thought we did. But abortion is a sensitive topic with me.

[Collegeboy]

Originally posted by Gumby


I HAVE to say this:

Being 'Pro-Choice' is the same as being 'Pro-Abortion'. Anytime you are giving someone the right and the choice to kill a LIVING human, you are allowing it. And that is nothing but murder, no matter how you 'warp' it.

Being pro-choice doesn't mean you are for abortion. You and I have the same ideas about abortion. I feel it is bad and should only be used if the life of the mother is in danger and so chooses to have it.

The difference is I am not about to tell a woman what she is going to do with her body. I do not feel that it is my right to do so. I am pro choice, for I am all for a woman’s right to choose to have an abortion or not. Let them vote and see what they want. Then go off of that.

[Miscue]

Please note that this thread is getting into sensitive topics... and may be closed if lines are crossed.

[Jack_Dubious]

Originally posted by shartley

Im Pro-Abortion!

I think the fetus should be able to be aborted up to the age of 16.


JDub

[Albinonewt]

Originally posted by Miscue
Please note that this thread is getting into sensitive topics... and may be closed if lines are crossed.

Yeah, we're screwed, this thread is totally getting closed

But, back to the topic at hand:

What's interesting to note is that the Bush Administration was against the recall from the beginning. It appears that Karl Rove thought it would help Bush the Republicans in the next federal election if California was still being governed by an inept Democrat. Pretty smart if you think about it, but I doubt it would make a difference in the Presidential election (although maybe in the house races). California is not likely to ever vote for a Republican President in my life time.

[Albinonewt]

Arnold is one brilliant guy

Today he recruited Warren Buffet as financial advisor. While I don't agree with a lot of Mr. Buffets theories on stimulating growth in an economy he is a long time Democrat and will really help Arnold get elected.

He's really playing this game shrewdly.

He also recruited a lot of staffers from former Governor Pete Wilson's staff. They're very talented political operatives. This is going to be very interesting.

[Albinonewt]

A bunch of Arnold and California Articles

Warning, these columns are from conservatives:

Anne Coulter

Brent Bozell

Tony Blanley

David Horowitz

Larry Elder

Robert Novak

[Jack_Dubious]