People with tattoos

[MiniMag84]

*Not siding with the confederate haters*

But the blacks that lived in the North were free and usually had jobs. Plus the opportunity of boasting about their 50 acres of farm.

[SlipknotX556]

The confederate flag is still hung at the capital building in south carolina, I believe.

But people have been trying to get a law passed that the flag is not to be hung anywhere anymore. But has that happened yet? Nope, I dont think it will because the south will not let it happen.

[-=Squid=-]

Get whatever you want, and no, not trying to start trouble, always liked you slipknot...but here are my $0.02 on the subject, and im from arkansas

1) we lost the war. Fly the american flag, the only flag to represent our country.

2) what are you "rebelling" against?

3) the south WONT rise again

4) the X with bars wasnt REALLY the confederate flag

but hey, I know a lot of people fly it because they like its looks, and heritage, and not because they think the south WILL rise again, or because they are super racist (although a lot of ppl at my school ARE racist and DO think the south will rise again )

Just get whatever you want.

[MiniMag84]

I don't hate it. I actually love vacationing to the south. But the war is over. We are one nation, undivided. Why hang a flag representing southern pride? Why not hang an American flag showing American pride?

[SlipknotX556]

Originally posted by -=Squid=-
Get whatever you want, and no, not trying to start trouble, always liked you slipknot...but here are my $0.02 on the subject, and im from arkansas

2) what are you "rebelling" against?

3) the south WONT rise again

but hey, I know a lot of people fly it because they like its looks, and heritage, and not because they think the south WILL rise again, or because they are super racist (although a lot of ppl at my school ARE racist and DO think the south will rise again )

Just get whatever you want.

Not rebelling against anything.

I know it wont.

Same with my school, its like that south park episode when cartman becomes Robert E. Lee, they try to start the civil war all over again

[-=Squid=-]

Originally posted by SlipknotX556


Not rebelling against anything.

I know it wont.

Same with my school, its like that south park episode when cartman becomes Robert E. Lee, they try to start the civil war all over again

Just making sure...all the stupidos at my school are like that though. You should just get a huge self portrait tatood on your back like stevo.

[ERut]

Originally posted by Rooster
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You do understand that more than 90% of the people in the North wanted nothing more than to defeat the South, and keep the blacks in the south. Why? Becuase they didn't want them living in their towns. The stars and bars is about states rights, its about individual rights, and about making small minded fools angry.
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Those are some big numbers to pull out of thin air, although I dont think that the whole nazi flag think was called for.

I understand what the stars and bars represent to you, just know that they do not represent that to the rest of the country. Isn't the US flag about rights and freedoms too?

Bottom line: think about it long and hard before you permenantly associate yourself with racism. And yes, I do think that is a side effect of tattooing a confed. flag on yourself, whether you are a racist or not.

PS: I am NOT a limp wristed liberal, or any kind of liberal at all, for that matter...

[Konigballer]

ok, I still think its a dumb idea to get a rebel flag tattoed on yah but some of the stuff being said about the rebel flag is a little out of line.

First of all, SlipnotX556, I didnt know you were from NY!!!!!!! I hope to god your getting this rebel flag done because you have some ACTUAL HISTORICAL TIE to the south, aka: your ancestors fought with the confederacy. If not, that is the lamest retarded azz thing I've heard in a loooonng while. What the hell would you know about southern pride if your just a transplanted yankee. But, if you actually have historical ties to the confederacy then I apologize, and that rant does not apply to you even though its kinda rednecky to get that tattoo.

Second, equating getting the confederate flag tattoed on your arm as the same as getting the nazi flag tattoed on your arm is completely moronic. For one, no matter what you think the civil war was about or fought for, be it : "defending states rights","preservation of the union", "abolishment of slavery" or whatever, it was not world war 2. The confederacy was a lot of things, both good and BAD. However, unlike Hitler and Nazi Germany in WW2, the south did'nt start or fight the Civil War as a ideological war of conquest and racial genocide. Comparing the Confederacy to the Nazis is wholly inapropriate and very misinformed. Also, the tie of the south to the rebel flag, as a symbol of pride or heritage, is also wholly unlike the association of the Nazi flag with germany. It is hard to understand if you didnt grow up here. The "rebel flag", or confederate battle flag, isnt even the actual national flag of the Confederate States of America but it became the incarnation of the southern cause and symbolized the thousands of sacrafices made during that war. Its also a reminder of the defeat that came in that war, which was almost entirely fought in the south.
Unlike flags in WW2, these "rebel flags" were carried IN combat. Each regiment carried their own, and had the list of battles the regiment fought in throughout the war painted on them as a symbol of regimental pride. They were carried in every major battle and were out at the forefront of some of the fiercest combat in the war. Often, flagbearers died, one after another, just to keep the battle flag from touching the ground. It was seen as dishonorable if it was captured by the enemy. The nazi flag is seen in germany as a sign of national shame, a reminder of when they were led to madness and world war by a despot. The confederate flag isnt viewed the same way in the south. It was a much different conflict under a much different set of political and social circumstances. I fully understand the many racsist conotations that the rebel flag has for some people and minorities, and I respect that. Thats why I dont intend on getting it tattoed on me. I also hate rebel flag t-shirts, stickers, license plates, etc...but in no way am I ashamed of my families past or heritage. I respect slipnots choice, though it wouldnt be mine, and I respect people's negative feelings to it. However, I think its only fair to try and understand the "southern sides" point of view about this as a symbol of pride or heritage. Your going to be sh--t outa' luck if you meet some fine black chick one day though

[Jack_Dubious]

just an FYI:

This is the official Flag of the Confederacy, the "Stars and Bars":



This is the Confederate Navy Jack:


The Confederate Battle Flag:

[Konigballer]

thanks for the visual supplement to my post personally I think the stars and bars looks like crap.

[SlipknotX556]

The Navy Jack is considered the symbol of the south, I just found that out on the web. Navy Jack is the one I will be getting on my arm and maybe the words old dixie under it

[Konigballer]

yeah but do you actually have any confederate relatives?

[SlipknotX556]

Actually I do.

[mag-hatter]

Originally posted by SlipknotX556
I was looking on the internet for my history report on the civil war, came across some about the confederate flag..

I dont know the name of the orginazation, but they are taking the flag and calling it a hate symbol, then they have right after that, it is also used as a symbol of south pride, that is correct, most south people by heart fly the flag as a symbol of pride.

But here is another thing I remember, about a year ago me and my brother were driving in town and we see an F-150 with an american flag and a confederate flag both on poles standing up out of his truck, so we say "ok" then the next day our friend from NY IMes me saying that there is something on the news about a guy being arrested for flying the american and confederate flag out of his pick up in Jupiter,FL(my town), can they really do that? Arrest the guy for showing the two flags together? I mean come on some court houses still fly the flag, major offices fly it.

whats to be proud of? the slavery? the fact that they got their asses kicked? the fact that they inbreed (jk lol)? just think about what you're engraving onto yourself.

[Rooster]

"whats to be proud of? the slavery? the fact that they got their asses kicked? the fact that they inbreed (jk lol)? just think about what you're engraving onto yourself."

Proud of a way of life that is lost on the moronic masses that have been allowed to over-populate this country. A vast majority of southern families did not own slaves, my ancestors included. They did not get their asses kicked, and in fact the only reason that the south did not imediately rejoin the union with full stature and all rights of any existing states was becuase John Wilks Booth shot the president in the head, and the liberal scum in the congress felt they had some sort of moral authority to try to teach the south a lesson. Its a tragedy Booth couldn't have killed an American traitor like Thadeus Stevens. Maybe the idiocy of the modern liberal could have been quelled if the grandfather of their lunacy had been taken out that day. Had it not been for the treachery of the liberals in congress, the war would have gone on for decades, perhaps generations.