hey guys.. i'm SIGSays did i do something to offend someone or something?

[Albinonewt]

Originally posted by shartley

And I (and I'm sure everyone else) will be happy to enter the adresses if they're provided, no proble there. However, I'm not removing my junk filter on the off chance that I am one day banned from AO.

I (as you do as well) still think the best thing to do is to make a contact point available to ask the question if you were banned and for what reason that does not require logging on.

[beam]

I know this is probably defying common sense (which many psychologists would argue is useless), but....

how about DON'T DO ANYTHING THAT WOULD GET YOU BANNED SO YOU DON'T GET BANNED FOR TRYING TO FIND OUT WHY YOU WERE BANNED?

oi

Here we are trying to come up with ways to accomodate offenders (who, don't kid yourself, know they broke the rules) by making it easy for them to find out why they are banned for 3 days. I say, send them an email and leave it at that. It's their choice to post the content that gets them banned, it's their choice whether to enter a bogus email addy in their profile, and it's their choice as to what email filtering they do on their end.

One last thing.... I love it when someone creates a new user account, comes on AO and POSTS a question about why they were banned. I mean...that is a given....additional ban. hahaha it's so funny.

[xadamx]

whew man im glad i havent pissed the mods off yet! i did have an issue like this, i changed my email and didnt know that if you do that you have to reactivate the account, so i emailed Webby and was very polite and he replied almost instantly telling me to check my email and reactivate my account. he was very polite and said he was greatful that i was civil toward him. if you cant log on and cant find Webbys email then just wait 3 days and if it still doesnt work procede from there.

[JEDI]

Originally posted by Army
I banned him for 3 days for cussing. Yes, all who get a ban are notified by Email or PM, it would be rather rude on our part not to.

Collegeboy, he knew it was bad enough, he circumvented the filters. We don't levy a ban unless a clear violation of the rules occurs. How come you always have to question our motives or reasons?

Well thats kinda a load of BS. My brother had his account banned, and never received an Email or explaination. when I went into chat and confronted you and Webby, neither of you fessed up to banning him. I think people have a right to question stuff like this.

[cphilip]

Who is your Brother? His user name that is?

Not always are they banned. Lately a few of you have turned into "User Awaiting Email Confirmation" status. This looks like a ban and requires the same action to reverse as a ban however its the users fault that caused it. What happens is they fail to respond to the confirmation email when they change their email here. And so it awaits the confirmation and you get the same error message and cannot post.

I always use email but often the user has used an email he never checks to register here. It's fairly often I find them not realizing it until one of their friends asks for them whats going on. And then they often have no idea what account they used to register here. Often a Hotmail or something...

[jdev]

heres an even better idea.

i did this on an old board that I ran.

have webby create a new forum, called "banned" or something of the like. make it so only mods and members that are banned can see this.

then, when a mod bans someone, they can create a post in the forum explaining why they were banned, and when the person logs in next, they will see it.

just a thought, that I think would work out great.

[cphilip]

We would have to give them a place to beach and gripe? special just for them? and create special access for them? I should think not!

The purpose of a ban is so that WE ALL can be shed of them for a few days. Why would moderators want to deal with them further?

[Miscue]

Originally posted by -=Squid=-
I think it was particularly nasty for miscue to ban this account...he only wanted to know why he was banned. I really doubt he was planning on posting on the ChrisChoi account...And whats up with the chat? Am I banned and why?

There are things that go on in the background that you are unaware of... and I have no reason to bring it to anyone's attention. I banned his new account after I already knew that he was aware why.

First of all, he already knew why he was banned. This entire post is him playing stupid and acting like he didn't do anything wrong. Just read the title of this thread and ask yourself why he chose that title.

Second... he had his friends and a few random people sending PMs in AO and IRC. This is how it was brought to my attention in the first place, I didn't know what was going on until one of them PM'd me. "He doesn't know why he was banned, and I don't either!" I provide them the link to the thread that got him banned. "What an idiot." It's self-explanatory. The thread was obviously locked after I told them why, because I didn't even know about it until they asked me.

And Squid...
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[jdev]

Originally posted by cphilip
We would have to give them a place to beach and gripe? special just for them? and create special access for them? I should think not!

The purpose of a ban is so that WE ALL can be shed of them for a few days. Why would moderators want to deal with them further?

no phil..

im positive that the BBS permissions allow the administrators to choose where people can and cannot post. (obviously make this forum unpostable to anyone but administrators. the purpose of this forum is just to show a user that they have been banned, and why)

i think you are just brushing off a good idea here. it will be helpful to the board, and eliminate people double registering and creating posts like this one. try and think of the benefeits before brushing an idea off..

[cphilip]

Um you missed my point entirely. I am not GOING to give them special access at all. And in the case of a permanent ban where their IP is banned that does them no good anyway. It already takes several actions and time from a Mod to just do the ban in the first place. And then the Mod has his documetation to do. And then an Admin has to moderate that action and reverse it all at the proper time. You want it to include several more steps. I do not think are nessicary to the process. Email is good enough. Period. And I do not want to even talk to them at all in a place where some others can see it. The other banned members. If all the banned members can see other banned members arguing... and if some of you could see some of the nasty hatefull stuff banned members here sent to me (and some others mods too) you wouldn't want it even semipublic. In fact you would be appalled! You do not cater to people that cause problems. If they are inconvenienced then good. Thats fine. That was thier choice to think before they posted. I not going to spend extra time catering to them. They can discuss it in email. If they do not check their email then thats their problem not mine. But all that should be private between us and them. No others. And a special forum would allow others to be privy to it.

[beam]

Hey, I got it! We could also hold a random drawing of all the people who have received a ban over the past month and give them a brand new XMAG!

Duh. You don't cater to the offenders...you cater to the people who follow the rules.

[Dayspring]

http://www.automags.org/resource/siteinfo/moderators.shtml

Originally posted by loverofhate22


this is a fairly good idea, because the mod email addresses aren't posted,

[1stdeadeye]

[email protected] will always work!

[cphilip]

I would not be aposed to my email being posted somewhere that anyone could get it without loggin in. But yea the webbmasters addy is always there.

Dayspring, can they see that page without loggin in? I realy do not know.

I had even thought some kind of public page but if you can't view it then thats not much help.

Perhaps we could add some to the log in error message that comes when you get that message that would allow you to email several of us and ask us to check into it? Rather than just Webby? I would have to ask him if that could be done...

[Albinonewt]

Originally posted by cphilip
Perhaps we could add some to the log in error message that comes when you get that message that would allow you to email several of us and ask us to check into it? Rather than just Webby? I would have to ask him if that could be done...

That's a fantastic idea and achieves everything that is needed. On one had it allows to banned to communicate with the banners and on the other hand it places no burden on the mods to seak out the banned person and speak to them. The onus is completely on the person having trouble.