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  • Darkling
    The Pump Master
    • Oct 2001
    • 234

    #16
    Deadeye - I understand what your saying, but that was one year. What, may I ask, does that have to do with this season? Nothing. And, "That Marlin's WS ruined baseball"?? How did that ruin anything?

    The Yankees salary for this season is 160 million, while the Marlins' is only 50 million. But they don't buy their team. (I can break it down for you more, if you'd like).

    How is what the Yankees are doing any different than what the Marlins did in '97? They find the best talent around (whether it be from farm teams or trades), and pay alot to keep it. I guess you can argue that every team does that, but the Yanees have a slightly larger edge because they have 160 million dollars a year to spend (maybe even more?).

    Sir_Brass - Well, they keep their players because they can afford to. The marlins, and alot of other low-income teams, can't. They find new, young talent, develop it and make them good until they can't afford to pay them anymore, and are forced to trade them.

    Ah, hold on a second...I'm still trying to figure out what your saying in that second part. "The yankees are a real team, not just a collection of talent. They win because they play as a team.

    Teamwork + skill + talent is the reason the yanks win..."

    Um...let's see...Wtf? Yes, the Yankees do, but saying the Marlins don't? How else do you think a young team with one of the lowest salaries in the game made it to the World Series? No, they certainly didn't have teamwork, nor do they have any skill, and theres no chance they have talent...

    "NOT because they are bought. that is the marlins ."
    Yeah, that makes alot of sense. You know, the Marlins do spend 160 million a year on their pla...wait...thats the Yankees. The Marlins have one of the lowest salaries in the game, how can they buy their team?? Some of the Marlins' players weren't anything to be bought in the first place. But look at them now. Teamwork, at the least, certainly didn't get them there .

    Damnit, this thread turned into a flame war...It was just supposto be a fun little thread celebrating a young team making it to the World Series, lol. Oh well.
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    • PyRo
      President Bioloaf inc.
      • Dec 2000
      • 10186

      #17
      Go Yankees

      Fla 0 Yankees 6

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      • AutomagRT1483
        AutoWangRT1483
        • Oct 2002
        • 2987

        #18
        Yankees win, series tied 1 - 1. I think this one is going to come down to the wire in Game 7.

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        • slateman
          Registered User
          • Oct 2001
          • 1346

          #19
          There's still baseball on?!?!?

          Seriously though, I have zero interest in this series whatsoever. I watched the movie Resident Evil instead of the game.
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          • Darkling
            The Pump Master
            • Oct 2001
            • 234

            #20
            Then why are you posting?
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            • PyRo
              President Bioloaf inc.
              • Dec 2000
              • 10186

              #21
              Originally posted by slateman
              There's still baseball on?!?!?

              Seriously though, I have zero interest in this series whatsoever. I watched the movie Resident Evil instead of the game.
              *Smack

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              • Darkling
                The Pump Master
                • Oct 2001
                • 234

                #22
                Hey, where did all you go? 1stdeadeye? Sir_Brass? Thordic? Anyone? Where are you all now?
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                Want more accuracy? Aim for once.
                Want more skill? Good luck."
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                • 1stdeadeye
                  Still around????
                  • Jun 2002
                  • 8501

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Darkling
                  Deadeye - I understand what your saying, but that was one year. What, may I ask, does that have to do with this season? Nothing. And, "That Marlin's WS ruined baseball"?? How did that ruin anything?
                  I did not go anywhere. I am an Orioles fan. So I could care less about this series.

                  How did it ruin baseball? The same way the new lakers Dream team is going to make a mockery of the NBA. To go out and buy a championship takes the fun out of it. Had he kept the team together to make a dynasty, then maybe I could let it go. But to buy the team, the series, get the ring and then sell it off was a slap to the face of baseball purists.

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                  • Darkling
                    The Pump Master
                    • Oct 2001
                    • 234

                    #24
                    Heh...

                    Yeah, but why don't we look at his? In 1997, the year that the Marlins won the WS, their payroll was only 52.5 million. Somehow, everyone started saying that they "bought their team," while the Yankees this season spent 160 million. But, of course they didn't buy theirs . Makes a whole lot of sense to me....
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                    Want more accuracy? Aim for once.
                    Want more skill? Good luck."
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                    • 1stdeadeye
                      Still around????
                      • Jun 2002
                      • 8501

                      #25
                      Re: Heh...

                      Originally posted by Darkling
                      Yeah, but why don't we look at his? In 1997, the year that the Marlins won the WS, their payroll was only 52.5 million.

                      Compared to the rest of the league at that time, it was a whole lot!

                      Somehow, everyone started saying that they "bought their team," while the Yankees this season spent 160 million. But, of course they didn't buy theirs . Makes a whole lot of sense to me....

                      Yes, but the Yankees don't sell their team at the end of the seaon and bring in chumps trying to pass them off on the fans as the defending world champs!

                      Spend all the money you want, but do it for the long haul. Buy and sell is chinzy!

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                      • Darkling
                        The Pump Master
                        • Oct 2001
                        • 234

                        #26
                        Marlins win!!

                        Yeah, because thats a real challenge...Face it, Yankees / Red Sox was the real series, the rest is just clean up
                        But the real series was the Yankee/Red Sox one, not the WS coming up.
                        Hey, you guys were right! There were some good games in there, but the real series' were the Marlins/Cubs and the Yankees/Red Socks, not this one!

                        Anyway, deadeye, yes, they were among the highest payrolls in the league, but comparitively (sp?) they were around the same as everyone else. The Yankees this year have a much higher payroll than everyone.
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                        Want more accuracy? Aim for once.
                        Want more skill? Good luck."
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                        • AutomagRT1483
                          AutoWangRT1483
                          • Oct 2002
                          • 2987

                          #27
                          I guess I was wrong about this one going to game 7. Ah well, the better team won.

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                          • yeahthatsme
                            aka yeahthatswang
                            • Sep 2002
                            • 2592

                            #28
                            yeah uumm...there is already a thread for this...scroll down the page...
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                            • AutomagRT1483
                              AutoWangRT1483
                              • Oct 2002
                              • 2987

                              #29
                              Yeah, this thread was started on the 16th. Yours was started on the 25th. So...

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                              • BobTheCow63
                                IAO Gold Star winner (BTK)
                                • Dec 2002
                                • 3832

                                #30
                                God, I was so torn for the world series... the Cubs ARE my team, always have been forever... but I absolutely despise the yankees (also for quite a long time)... so I was forced to root for the team that beat MY team in the series before!!

                                And... I can understand what people say about EITHER team being "bought"... hell, look at Pudge!!
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