Is what was done justified?

[PyRo]

Killing is cheaper then wounding, you can be that nomatter how dangerous he was if he was wounded he is going to get somthing in civil court.

[Collegeboy]

Originally posted by Albinonewt
No, it was not justified. Also, the beating the man received wasn't justified either. I allow for the people that caught up to him and blocked his escape, but that point he should have been apprehended and turned over to the authorities.

Shooting him was way out of line, since at that point the man clearly presented no threat to the shooter's, or anyone else's, life.

Also, I'm willing to bet that the witnesses CAN identify the man and the vehicle, but choose not to.

For once we completly agree.

[jdev]

heh, citizens were definitely out of line on this one.

had they just cornered him and apprehended him (i.e citizens arrest) that would have been fine.

taking the law into your own hands, while the idea is great in theory, doesnt work out all that well.

should this person who shot this man, and the other people assulted him be caught, I would expect that they be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. regardless of this other persons actions, murder is not justified.

i hope they ALL get what comes to them..

[ShooterJM]

Hmm. Well you can choose your actions, but you can't choose your consequences.

Killing him I don't agree with, but a few love taps here and there I don't see a problem with.



BTW I don't think just anyone should be able to decide guilt and hand out punishment at will. I mean, I should be able to, but I don't trust any of the rest of you....

[platinumjason]

Here is my opinion and many of you may not agree with it, but oh well. A guy walks down the street and beats random people for no reason at all with a pipe. In my opinion, I think what he got was what he deserved, whats to say he wont kill the next person he attacks? The guys who got him are heros in my eyes. Do stupid stuff and see what it gets you.

[ShooterJM]

Originally posted by platinumjason
Do stupid stuff and see what it gets you.

Yep, and I bet this'll be more of a deterrent for random pipe weilding crimes then if he was arrested.

[Sir_Brass]

IF he was shot by someone trying to defend one of the women while the guy was in the middle of the act, then it is justified. but CHASING HIM DOWN, THEN killing him is murder. If he was chased down, then subdued, fine. but THEN killing him goes into murder, and murder is wrong (not necessarilly killing, but murder).

I'm not saying he didn't get what he deserved, only that it was NOT up to the people who chased him down to deliver justice. That is left to the courts. The did what they had to into forcing him into a position where he could no longer to harm. To continue to harm him by killing him goes into 8th amendment violations, b/c excessive force is cruel and unusual punishment.

Now, let me say that I'm for killing the guy if he was in the middle of the act, told to cease and desist or be shot, and he either attacked or continued beating, but he was in a vulnerable situation and when he was killed, HE was the vulnerable party being assaulted.

[Konigballer]

no, you should have said "do stupid stuff [in West Side Detroit] and see what it gets you [shot, stabbed, etc.]"- Running around the ghetto with a pipe in your hands beating people, and young girls, is a surefire way to get killed in just about any vioent city of america. If I went down to Savannah's "always lively" East side and started playing "wack-a-mole" with everyone I saw I would'nt be surprised when someone came by and gunned me down. And it was in Detroit for god's sake! If you wanted responsible citizens to "do whats right" and aprehend the man than you must have thought he commited those crimes in Metropolis or in comfy suburbia.
Welcome to reality. If I did the same thing in some very 'back woods" parts of were I'm from in tennessee, I would probably "disappear" out in the woods or find myself the victim of an unfortunate hunting accident. This is just how it works. Its not always perfectly "right", "fair" or "just" but the fairness of justice is usually determined all over the world by your location. You rape someone in america and you go to jail, you do it in some parts of the middle east and they execute you. This crazy guy just chose the wrong place to go beating people with a pipe and he paid the consequences.

[1stdeadeye]

Would I have done it? NO!

Was it right? No!

Will I lose sleep over a scumbag getting capped? no!

The guys who did it did save the girl's life who was being assaulted. If caught, would they be convicted? I doubt it.

[PyRo]

They didn't save her life, he was already running away, thats what makes it so illigle and why it is murder. If he had shot him to stop the beating he might have gotten off, and if he was convicted would get a very light scentance. However since he was already running it is just murder.

[1stdeadeye]

Originally posted by PyRo
They didn't save her life, he was already running away, thats what makes it so illigle and why it is murder. If he had shot him to stop the beating he might have gotten off, and if he was convicted would get a very light scentance. However since he was already running it is just murder.

Did you read the article?

It said the men chased him away from her and he ended up shot in the alley. You don't know if he was cornered and turned to threaten his pursuers do you? Read the article! There are a lot of details missing! We don't know everything that happened.

We do know that the men who shot him chased him away from the young girl he was beating! Beyond that, everything is conjecture.

[PyRo]

He was helpless, he was shot. Thats murder.

[RiddalinJunkie08]

Im probably gonna get flamed for this but...

We have police for a reason and we shouldn't take the law into our own hands. Just my 2 cents...

[PyRo]

Umm did you read this thread, thats pretty much everyones opinions. Its ok to protect yourself or another, its ok to detain the guy untill police show up. But to beat someone and kill him is not.

[Albinonewt]

Originally posted by RiddalinJunkie08
Im probably gonna get flamed for this but...

We have police for a reason and we shouldn't take the law into our own hands. Just my 2 cents...

Um, YEAH! How dare you agree with all of us! Prepare for flaming!

You seem to misunderstand the concept of flaming. We flame you for NOT agreeing, not the other way around.