AO: We are back from the dead... again! After an 18 day outage, we are finally alive and well. Who knew how complicated updating software/databases from 2008 would be. I still have alot of tweaks to make, but my main goal was getting everything patched and updated to 2026.
Vbulletin 6 has changed alot since 2008 so we will have a ton of new features to dig into.
If you follow the rules about the Ban, they usually are lifted early. BUT, you go around the ban and create another account, that usually results in a perm ban.
Now, we may not be privy to all the information. I know that the moderators keep "paperwork" of sorts in Illuminati in regards to their moderating of the forums. I'm willing to bet that this paperwork has been kept on Squid and a few others on the forum.
Now, I'm not choosing sides. In fact, I really don't care one way or the other. (never had anything against Squid, but also never thought overly positive either). But keep in mind. None of us are moderators and none of us know the "paper trail" that Squid may have generated in the time here.
As for the whole favoritism thing... That's pretty much a fact of life. You're going to have people do that. Does it make it totally fair? No. But is it so overwhelming as to cause problems? Also, no. We all know the rules and abide by them. Otherwise, we'd be in the same situation as Squid and others have been. But I think it also goes the other way as well. People that SHOULD get a vacation, don't.
I like to think that in the end, it all comes out in the wash. As people said, "it's an internet forum." It's not congress.
Originally posted by Dayspring If you follow the rules about the Ban, they usually are lifted early. BUT, you go around the ban and create another account, that usually results in a perm ban.
Now, we may not be privy to all the information. I know that the moderators keep "paperwork" of sorts in Illuminati in regards to their moderating of the forums. I'm willing to bet that this paperwork has been kept on Squid and a few others on the forum.
Now, I'm not choosing sides. In fact, I really don't care one way or the other. (never had anything against Squid, but also never thought overly positive either). But keep in mind. None of us are moderators and none of us know the "paper trail" that Squid may have generated in the time here.
As for the whole favoritism thing... That's pretty much a fact of life. You're going to have people do that. Does it make it totally fair? No. But is it so overwhelming as to cause problems? Also, no. We all know the rules and abide by them. Otherwise, we'd be in the same situation as Squid and others have been. But I think it also goes the other way as well. People that SHOULD get a vacation, don't.
I like to think that in the end, it all comes out in the wash. As people said, "it's an internet forum." It's not congress.
Originally posted by Dayspring Wow. That was easy.
a little too easy if you ask me.. shartley has been replaced with an unobjectified mess of a man. we want the other shartley back.. or do we? (anyone catch south park last night. it was the evil cartman episode )
anyways. its kindof odd that the mods dont come into these threads and sort this out for everone. you would think that maybe they would want people to know what happened (should this type of topic arise) so they dont repeat it.
special consideration on the boards. yes. there is. i know. not saying how, I just know. take it to the bank.
and the creating a new user account, i did that once, and i proably should have been perm banned. it was my fault for not reading the rules to begin with.
i say bottom line is this:
squid is banned for a reason. in the few months that ive been here, I havent seen a mod just ban someone for no good reason.
which brings me to my next matter..
AO Suvivor.. im for it spice things up around here
Originally posted by shartley Mango stated that there is no favoritism on AO...but anyone who can read can see that this is not something that happens all the time, nor across the board from member to member. Much of it hinges directly on popularity, whether folks like to admit it or not.
I would have to disagree with the last part. I believe I have been shown "favoritism". As an example I was not banned when I posted something with an "inappropriate" link. I dare say I am not all that popular here nor am I a part of any "clique". I don't think anyone (other than maybe some Nor Cal AOers I've met) would call me a friend. If I had to guess at the reason for the "favoritism" I'd have to say it's because I try not to cause trouble. I try to respect others. I may passionately disagree with someone, but try and avoid making it personal. I'm also not perfect and have made it personal.
So, what am I getting at? You can get the mods to "cut you some slack" if you avoid causing trouble as a general rule. You know, what comes around goes around. Don't be a PITA and they might let you slide the first time it happens.
Hey Hitech your starting to sound like me! - AGD
Hitech is the man.... :eek: - Blennidae The only Hitech Lubricant
I already wrote a few paragraphs explaining this in the original thread. But, the thread was deleted... and those who needed to see it I believe read it. Dayspring has it correct... If you'd like to see a paper trail, go search all of squid's posts and you'll find it.
Summary: He's been warned several times already to quit misbehaving, but persists anyway. He has already been banned before for doing the same things. He has broken rules that have been specifically pointed out to him not to. The culmination of repeat offenses and going over the top in this thread is what did him in.
It's a THREE DAY BAN! He'll survive. Maybe he'll remember to behave. If he still doesn't, then he'll get the perm ban.
Originally posted by hitech I would have to disagree with the last part. I believe I have been shown "favoritism". As an example I was not banned when I posted something with an "inappropriate" link. I dare say I am not all that popular here nor am I a part of any "clique". I don't think anyone (other than maybe some Nor Cal AOers I've met) would call me a friend. If I had to guess at the reason for the "favoritism" I'd have to say it's because I try not to cause trouble. I try to respect others. I may passionately disagree with someone, but try and avoid making it personal. I'm also not perfect and have made it personal.
So, what am I getting at? You can get the mods to "cut you some slack" if you avoid causing trouble as a general rule. You know, what comes around goes around. Don't be a PITA and they might let you slide the first time it happens.
As a matter of fact I think it was me that banned squid a while back for a few days.
But I will say that when I saw that thread it was after Miscue had delt with it. And I will say that I was not realy all that impressed with a few other members activities in that thread either. They may not have actually broken any rules clear rules but they certainly were activities I did not approve of. This editing posts to put words in someones mouth is one of the things I noted. And not allowing a member to speak his mind about what he thinks without picking on him over it. And you knew he was excitable. So you picked on him, That is bullying is what it is. I was ashamed realy of what I saw.
And I think Squid means well. He has always been sorry for what he has done "after" the fact. At some point I was hopeing he would conform before the fact. He indeed may have some issues that maybe he needs some slack cut on. And maybe we should be the ones to help him deal with that. Shutting him off is not helping him any now is it?
Thats all I gotta say about it. He is getting some slack as Miscue has decided to overlook him coming right back. I think that was very fair.
But a certain member involved int the bullying of him will go on watch. Call attention to yourself and thats the least that will happen.
Common here folks. Lets not be so mean spirited. You can correct someone without being mean. Thats just not the right way to handle things.
AGD, where we are so good we can do it with only ONE tube!
Originally posted by cphilip But a certain member involved int the bullying of him will go on watch. Call attention to yourself and thats the least that will happen.
Say my name , say my name
if no one is around you
say baby i love you
if you aint runnin game
Say my name , say my name
you actin kinda shady
aint callin me baby
why the sudden change ?
Say my name , say my name
if no one is around you
say baby i love you
if you aint runnin game
Say my name , say my name
you actin kinda shady
aint callin me baby
Better say my name !
(verse 1)
Any other day i would call
you would say
"baby how's your day ?"
but today it aint the same
every other word is
Uh Huh, Yea Okay ,
could it be that you,
are at the crib with anotha lady ?
If you took it there first if all
let me say, i am not the one
to sit around and be played
so prove your self to me,
or the girl that you claim
why don't you say the thangs
that you said to me yesterday ?
(Bridge )
I know you say that i am assuming things
Something's going down thats the way it seems
Shouldn't be the reason why you're acting strange
If nobody's holding you back from me
Cause I know how you useually do
When you say everything to me times two
Why can't you just tell the truth ?
If somebody's there then tell me who
(Chorus )
(Verse2 )
What is up with this ?
Tell the truth ,
who you with ?
How would you like it if
I came over with my clique
Don't try to change it now
See you gotta bounce
When two seconds ago
you said you just got in the house .
It's hard to believe that you,
are at home , by yourself
when i just heard the voice
heard the voice of someone else .
Just this question
Why do you feel you gotta lie?
Gettin caught up in your game
when you can not say my name
(bridge )
I know you say that i am assuming things
Something's going down thats the way it seems
Shouldn't be the reason why you're acting strange
If nobody's holding you back from me
Cause I know how you useually do
When you say everything to me times two
Why can't you just tell the truth ?
If somebody's there then tell me who
(chorus )
(where my ladies at)
Yeah -yeah -yeah -yea..yeah
(can you say that? c'mon )
Yeah -yeah -yeah -yeah
Yeah -yeah -yeah -yeah
Yeah -yeah -yeah ...yeah
Yeah , yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah (reapeat )
(break it down )
OOO uuuu OO uu OOOO uu OOOOOO
(yea yea yea)
(dc take it to the bridge c'mon )
(BRIDGE )
(CHORUS 2x)
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