I Hate Labels

[land hurricane]

i think python about covered it

[Rooster]

"I realize this, I was just tryinmg to tie in a storie with the main question..... Where do you stand with labels?"

Perception is reality. If you dress like a fool, you are a fool. Thats life. Get used to it.

[-Carnifex-]

Originally posted by Python14
If you are goth, or think you are atleast, then here you go....

Goths are a misnomer. You are not Goth. No one is Goth anymore. Goths were a germanic tribe, much like the Vandals, Visogoths, and to a lesser extent the Vikings(who followed the Goths). They were mostly limited to Southern Scandanavia(Finland and Sweden).

You are not from Western Europe. You have never pillaged a small town and raped the women. You also do not wear pre-victorian cloths. You dress in all black because that's what your friends do and you want to fit in. Gothic clothes are made of patent leather, latex, plastic, cotton, and steel....all materials that did not exsist in the Gothic period. If you are trying to be "different" like they say to me whenever I ask, then wear coveralls to school with pictures of Roman Gods on them. Otherwise, you are not different, you are not new, you are not Goth, you are just lashing out for stupid reasons like you get made fun of for liking Grindcore(which you should be made fun of for).


Rergardless, labels are a part of life....Just like Taxes and Death. If you don't want to be labeled, then buy a shovel....dig a grave, and get started on dying early because frankly, you will be labeled for your entire life based on your opinions, actions, characteristics, and :::gasp::: APPEARANCE!

Sorry to tell ya, but that's how it goes.

It is not a misnomer; it is a colloquial term.

[Python14]

It's stupid, that's what it is.

I'm gonna start a fashion style called "Cockney" where I dress up like a gay pirate everyday and talk about how hard sea-life is.

And then I'll start a culture war with the PsuedoGoths. We(the Cockneys) will win easily because the goths are too scared to come out into the "oppressing" sunlight because it might fade their new black latex Bondage pants they got with a "The voices in my head say listen to Grindcore" T-shirt at HotTopic for $90.

Stupid PsuedoGoths

[Cliffio]

im not gonna read all this because, well frankly, i dont care


anyways, when i saw this thread, i swore it said i hate liberals, and i thought to myself, well thats gonna be a shat storm


anyways, thats not what this is, just thought i would share, even tho i know it doesnt make all that much sense


Cliff

[Impuls]

I'm sorry but when you wear black lipstick, black fingernail polish, 20 feet of small chainlink stuff attatched to random parts of your clothes and as many saftey pins and shiny metal things you're gonna be called a freak. It's high school. If you want to go without lables wear "normal clothes" and just lay back. Wearing "freaky" stuff is your choice and you can't change what other people think. There's a difference between expressing yourself and just looking as stupid as possible.

BTW, I'm not a big fan of the whole gothic thing or the punk thing, well with punks it's more the arm bands and looking as grungy as possible. They could be the coolest, nicest, most outgoing people in the world but I don't have that much respect for them. Nothing personal just how I feel. I guess I fit in as the preppy jock that dates the cheerleader and plays lots of sports.

[ExtremeODD]

One: They worship Satan, and though I am not the least bit religious, I believe it to be idiotic.
Two: Generally speaking they're whiney and depressed.
Three: They have some sort of compulsion to lash out against society (Please do not tell me otherwise, I was Gothicish and still hang out with Goths.)

not all goths worship satan, one of my best friends is goth, and paegan. she doesnt worship the devil and neither does the other 40% of my school which is made up of goths.
Whiny and depressed? yeah some of them are when they get dumped and such, but basically every single one ive seen arent acting all slap happy, but they arent depressed and whiney
Some of them can lash out against society, but not all have a tendancy to, only a few

[Xerces]

no one likes labels.

if you don't like it, conform. if you want to keep raging against the machine, deal with it.

[i like tictacs]

look at what you're wearing, then ask yourself why your getting stared at. believe whatever you want, but for gods sake dress with a little bit of class.

[i like tictacs]

Originally posted by Rooster
"I realize this, I was just tryinmg to tie in a storie with the main question..... Where do you stand with labels?"

Perception is reality. If you dress like a fool, you are a fool. Thats life. Get used to it.

Agreed.

[SpecialBlend2786]

I'm glad that all my friends got my back when it comes to lables. otherwise i think i'd be in trouble.

[Restola]

The only thing you can do is put up with it until you freak out and shoot everyone, drop out of school, kill yourself, or graduate.

The system is set up to reward and protect the people that do the abuse, so don't even bother trying anything "official" about it.

But if you don't like being sterotpyed as a goth, maybe you shouldn't dress like a goth. We don't have time to get to know everyone we see, and appearances matter. And you wont be dressing like a goth in college, unless you an art major who wants to work at Starbucks the rest of your life.

Good luck.

Oh yeah, I just noticed you're 13. Uh...you'll probably get picked on no matter who you are at least part of the way through jr high and high school, thats the way it works. No one on the administration cares, hell no one who can do anything about it cares at all. Get a close group of friends and screw everyone else.

[Ov3rmind]

I know what you mean man, people just wont stop labeling me "The Hot Sex Machine", and it's getting pretty old.

[RetroEclipseMan]

Yeah, if you're only 13 then you better get used to it. I truly have no sympathy for all the people complaining about labels. Heck I was labeled all the time through highschool, I didn't care.I knew that it didn't matter what all the "jocks" and "preps" really thought. Heck half of those people that talked so much crap about all the "stoners" and "punks" are already failing out of college and living off mommy and daddy.

It's all about confidence. If you have the confidence to wear what you're wearing and the image you're putting out about yourself then those labels shouldn't bother you. If they do then I'm afraid to say you're just another hot topic clone that doesn't truly belong in the scene. Sorry for the rant, it's late.

[InfinatyBPS]

Originally posted by Python14
If you are goth, or think you are atleast, then here you go....

Goths are a misnomer. You are not Goth. No one is Goth anymore. Goths were a germanic tribe, much like the Vandals, Visogoths, and to a lesser extent the Vikings(who followed the Goths). They were mostly limited to Southern Scandanavia(Finland and Sweden).

You are not from Western Europe. You have never pillaged a small town and raped the women. You also do not wear pre-victorian cloths. You dress in all black because that's what your friends do and you want to fit in. Gothic clothes are made of patent leather, latex, plastic, cotton, and steel....all materials that did not exsist in the Gothic period. If you are trying to be "different" like they say to me whenever I ask, then wear coveralls to school with pictures of Roman Gods on them. Otherwise, you are not different, you are not new, you are not Goth, you are just lashing out for stupid reasons like you get made fun of for liking Grindcore(which you should be made fun of for).


Rergardless, labels are a part of life....Just like Taxes and Death. If you don't want to be labeled, then buy a shovel....dig a grave, and get started on dying early because frankly, you will be labeled for your entire life based on your opinions, actions, characteristics, and :::gasp::: APPEARANCE!

Sorry to tell ya, but that's how it goes.

You realize just because they use the same word, dosen't mean that thats what their trying to be. Sure Goth is all that viking raiding stuff you said, but definitions change over tine, and now goth means wearing black, chains, skulls, whatever... Its just a style and sometimes an attitude toward life and society. Usualy goths are people who know they don't fit in with others because they don't care about "Pimpin hos, drankin fotees, rollin in da escalade." and all that superficial stuff. And why are they mad at society, because people are shallow, mean, rude, and stupid. Usualy goths are really cool people, they just have an attitude problem with you if you are a shallow and judgmental person. And no, not all goths "worship the devil" and your ignorant for thinking that(to whoever said that). Sure there are hardcore goths that mess around with black magic and "worship the devil" But you know what, the majority of high school students aren't really into worshipping evil. In a way I've always been goth, always liked chains, midieval looking stuff, spikes, skulls, flames, and I hate most of the people at my school because they are ********, and like to talk **** about people that they don't know. I would be a "goth" if my school didn't have a gay dress code, which means pretty much no chains or spikes, no clothes with logos of any kind, so ya. I'm just a fat guy with long hair that dresses in black.