Overboard Drug Raid in a SC School

[shartley]

The raid led to allegations of excessive force and racism, because many of the students were black.

[1stdeadeye]

I did not know that High School Principal's set police tactics and policies.

He requested the sweep. He didn't tell them to come in guns out!

I agree with you Sam. This is pure BS!!!

[Rob218]

Yea, me being a student will be very disappointed to have Mr. McCrackin gone. He was at school before everyone else and left after everyone else. It's a great loss to our school. He'd been there for 20 YEARS. How many of your principals have been at your school for 20 years? He devoted his life to Stratford and now he was pretty much forced to resign. Such a bad end to such a pitty happening.

[magsRus]

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[chunk_daddy]

we have dogs come through our school, no lock down nothing......just while we r in class, when i get older and have kids im not going to try and stop them.....if i catch them doing it.....ill sit down with them talk to them and tell them that its not right and that im not going to ground them or reck their lives, but tell them that they should not be doing it and that it just gets worse

[Sir_Brass]

Originally posted by chunk_daddy
we have dogs come through our school, no lock down nothing......just while we r in class, when i get older and have kids im not going to try and stop them.....if i catch them doing it.....ill sit down with them talk to them and tell them that its not right and that im not going to ground them or reck their lives, but tell them that they should not be doing it and that it just gets worse

Then they'll simply act like they take you seriously, but still blow off what you told them and continue to do it.

When the time comes for me to get married and have children, if I EVER catch them associating with known drug users and sellers, I'll sit down and have a talk with them and then forbid them to have an extended contact with such people. If I catch them afterwards hanging out with them for more than a minute or two, I'll ground them, or something. If I ever catch them with drugs, whether they're holding it for someone or it's theirs, then they are GROUNDED among other things. I'll make their personal lives miserable, but most certainly NOT unlivable (still give them plenty of shelter, love, food, etc. just not some of the luxuries they've grown used to).

Just sitting down and having a talk with them will do jack squat. Reinforcement through discipline is what works. It's been proven throughout the ages, yet modern day folks seem to think that what has worked for thousands of years is suddenly oh so very inhumane and cruel and that their newage method of simply "talking" is what will work. . . . BULL CRAP!! Have they never heard of the phrase, "Spare the rod and spoil the child"? Well, take it from one who has been that child and turned out better b/c the rod wasn't spared when I was young. I'm actually grateful to my parents for loving me enough to discipline me when I needed it, even though being disciplined was NOT enjoyable, and it hurt them to see me unhappy, but they still disciplined me when necessary b/c it was for the better. When parents say "This will hurt me more than it hurts you." they mean it, yet that they still do it is a testament to a parent's love.

[Rob218]

UPDATE - Sad end to the story. Our beloved principal George McCrackin was quote "released" from all duties pertaining(sp) to the school. Basically they fired him. He isn't coming back and it's very very sad to have him gone. The EXACT opposite of what Mr. McCrackin was, is now the "interim" principal. Hell, she has outside ties to 1/8 of the school's population. During the introduction ceremony held the first week after school started everyone "booed" her off the stage. We were detained for doing that and were told that, "The administration is very disappointed in you. She is the best of the best during these trying circumstances and you shunned her." Do we care? No. She keeps saying, "Let's make Stratford the glorious school it was keep it clean." First off, Stratford was, is and always will be glorious. Most of us love that school and wouldn't go anywhere else. Second, it's "cleaner" than most public school in the U.S.

On a side note the Senior class has made a petition to get Mr. McCrackin to hand them their diplomas. They expect it to get thrown out by the principal. It was worth a try. Even though she(I don't even think I know her name), is here the staff have still kept Mr. McCrackin alive. In every single newletter/handout given the school seal with the Principal's name is still George McCrackin. I know some of the staff at the school and trust me, they are as enraged about the change as we are.

[AssassN]

Originally posted by Sir_Brass
If I catch them afterwards hanging out with them for more than a minute or two, I'll ground them, or something. If I ever catch them with drugs, whether they're holding it for someone or it's theirs, then they are GROUNDED among other things.

Umm, you'll ground them?

When my mom or dad grounds me all it does is make me mad at them. I'll ussually continue to do what I was doing. It's never been drugs but still, it doens't stop kids to jsut be grounded.

[JimmyDean]

Now i didnt read every post so this may have been pointed out, but i find it irionic that there is sooooo many drugs and things beign passed, sold, and bought, yet the cops didnt find anyone with any. now is it just me or does that not make sense?

And also when is said "ordered all students to lie on the floor and then handcuffed anyone who apparently didn't comply quickly enough."
i know i woulda been cuffed, cuz when some one rushes into the school with a gun out, im gonna run like crazy cuz it will probly happen to fast to be able to make sure its the cops, and i wouldent wanna stick around and find out its not the cops if u get my drift. just my 2 cents.

[Garrum]

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[845]

IMO they should have come in with the M4s,Remingtons, and MP5s. We need this at our school to teach the loser kids who think they are tough because they sell weed and beat up on kids half their size with 6 of their friends a lesson. Maybe some dogs and helicopters too.

[Quickling]

wow that raid was WICKED successfull! they found a dozen backpacks with drugs! Of all 2760 students.

Wow that successfull raid scared the kids to find that .4% of them had drugs, and none had weapons in their lockers. Wow ...great thinking morons. Police and school officals are so dumb. That percentage is not even statistically significant. Buttholes.

[Sir_Brass]

Originally posted by AssassN



Umm, you'll ground them?

When my mom or dad grounds me all it does is make me mad at them. I'll ussually continue to do what I was doing. It's never been drugs but still, it doens't stop kids to jsut be grounded.

well, unlike some parents, I'll be teaching my kids that my word is LAW, and that they will RESPECT my word.

And, SHAME ON YOU! Have you no respect for your parents? You should feel shamed that you willfully disobey your parents like that!

And as a parent, my job isn't to make my kids like me. It'll be to raise them properly with love. And that does NOT mean that they have to like me. A parent often has to do that which makes them unpopular in the short run but in the end, the child THANKS the parent years later for what they did.

[845]

My dad never punished me in my life and I have no problem obeying his rules. My mom on the otherhand that is a totally different story.

[Sir_Brass]

A parent should be strict, but also fair. If you're a fair parent, the kid ought to respect you. That way, you show them you're pleased with them when they do well and are mad at them when they misbehave and disobey, but AT ALL TIMES love them.

That's the example that was set for me by my parents, and I fully intend on doing the same with my kids. I'm sure some actual parents here will agree with me here (shartely, deadeye, etc. ?).