Sniper Muhammad sentenced to death

[RetroEclipseMan]

Originally posted by Fred
personally i think shooting is too honorable for the traitorous slime...

take him upstairs, tie a noose around his neck, throw him out the window, then send the family the bill for the rope, or save it for that kid who helped him... 2 for 1!

good riddance to real garbage.

---Fred

My thoughts exactly.

[breg]

Hmmm... Personally I am a whole hearted supported of the death secntence. I am one of those people who believes that the punishment should fit the crime. Though, at times, I am a very vindictive person; so I guess that in the best interests of humanity it is a good thing that I am not handing out the punishments.
At times, I also get mad at the whole appeals process. You know, a condemned innmated sitting on death row for years on end trying to get his scentence reduced or thrown out, but then every once in a while you hear of some new evidence or DNA test or what have you setting one innocent death row inmate free. Then I think that it is all worth it, and the appeals process is not that bad.
The thing is, this all seems so senseless. Like you just want to grab him by the lapels and scream,"WHY?!?!" I can't understand why he went around the Baltimore/DC area doing all of this. It had the whole country rattled. I got back from a TDy about that time, and I stopped off in Baltimore and Mom told me to be careful because of it. Maybe that was his intent. To cause terror. I don't know. At time I really don't want to know. Some of it you can just chalk up to sick and twisted people, but there has to be something more to it than this.

Very disturbed by these kind of people,

BREG

[Albinonewt]

I think in this case the cost will be mitigated heavily because it's so high profile and such a national event that he will be executed very quickly (in relative terms). Remember the OK bomber was put down very quickly (again, in relative terms).

The only problem, IMO, with the death penalty is that due to the level of care we put into it the penalty becomes impractical. Because we spend such much time, money, effort to make sure the person isn't innocent it eventually becomes counter productive.

But, as science gets better the effort needed is reduced, so it's a problem that will likely sort itself out over the years. It's already gotten much better.

[1stdeadeye]

We need to execute this bastage.

If he gets life, who knows what will happen down the road. There is always the chance that some whacko like Gov. Ryan in Chicago will grant him clemency or make him eligible for parole.

He needs to be put in the general population with a child molestor brand on his forehead. Very inexpensive way to execute him!!!

Thar ain't no appeals to bubba when he is butt raping and strangling you to death!!!!!!!

[breg]

I'm watching CNN right now, and they reported that some of the jurors felt physically ill during the trial.
Like I said before, I just don't want to know what drove this evil person to do these terrible things.

[-=Squid=-]

This thread has certainly grown. Quite a lot of insane little sadists in here...

[Albinonewt]

Here's the thing about the death penalty in my opinion.

I have ZERO moral problems executing a person that intentionally takes lives. I don't want him to ever be loose on the streets and as such I see no need to keep him around at all.

My problem with the death penalty is purely a functional one. The death penalty system is still being refined, it has been for decades and it will be for decades. It's very difficult to put an "acceptable level of error" on a process that kills people. That's what makes the death penalty so sticky.

[Lohman446]

The acceptable level of error in applying the death penalty is... hmm zero. I have to agree, I have no moral problem with the death penalty, in fact I am a strong supporter of it morally.

That being said, it serves no functional purpose in today's society. It is questionable if it serves as a preventer of crime, and it costs more than life in prison. No function

Suitably, I think we should give every relative of every sniper victim a pellet gun (not those super high powered ones either) and let them all take shots at him until he is dead. I expect it would take several thousand or more.

[emeraldis]

Personally, I think it's ridiculous to kill someone who has killed. For one, it's not making them pay for their dirty deeds, it's just killing them. Ending their lives. Honestly, I don't think that's fair to those who died. No justice there at all.

I think I'll cry about this tonight.

[Fred]

Originally posted by emeraldis
Personally, I think it's ridiculous to kill someone who has killed. For one, it's not making them pay for their dirty deeds, it's just killing them. Ending their lives. Honestly, I don't think that's fair to those who died. No justice there at all.

I think I'll cry about this tonight.

Gee.. what's better... being... Alive... watching cable and living it up off the system in prison, with the occasional run in with the fellas in the showers... and actually breathing, unlike your victims...

or being dead...

Given the choice, what do you think a convict would take?



I wish legislation for new penalties would be introduced... something along the balance of rights.

If you deny someone of their rights, i.e. the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, by say, killing or raping them, you should have yours revoked. period... it would change a lot of stuff real quick methinks.

---Fred

[Sir_Brass]

Originally posted by fire1811
VA death sentence is what type?

lethal injection. go to sleep and never wake up. though, he could request the electric chair if he wished. but the default choice is lethal injection.

[Miscue]

No potato peeler squad eh? Shucks.

[Sir_Brass]

Originally posted by Albinonewt
Here's the thing about the death penalty in my opinion.

I have ZERO moral problems executing a person that intentionally takes lives. I don't want him to ever be loose on the streets and as such I see no need to keep him around at all.

My problem with the death penalty is purely a functional one. The death penalty system is still being refined, it has been for decades and it will be for decades. It's very difficult to put an "acceptable level of error" on a process that kills people. That's what makes the death penalty so sticky.

I used to be in opposition to the death penalty ... then I grew up. Still, I do have a beef with the death penalty as it is now. My gripe is the same as yours, albinonewt: the error factor is still too high in my opinion. but I no longer oppose the death penalty from a moral standpoint.

[Miscue]

Whatever happened to good ole banishment? What I'd do is, remove their citizenship and pay a 3rd world country with a lack of human rights laws - to keep them as prisoner. They receive a bonus if the prisoner is still alive after his sentence is up.

[Lethargic]

Not to burst your guy's high and mighty bubbles, buuuut...

First off, my dad is a sheriff, and I have been down to the county jail on several occasions. One important thing you should realize is that the death row inmates NEVER come in contact with the general populace. And I mean never. THey have seperate facilities, seperate mealtimes, seperate showers, seperate everything. So all of you who justify yourselves by saying "well the guy is just going o get raped and beaten" im sorry to say it doesnt work that way. I wish it did, but apparently there is this little thing in the constitution against cruel and unusual punishment.

Second, the death row cells i got to see looked a lot more like hotel rooms than anything else. Granted, these guys were locked up and guarded 24/7, but I know a lot of people who have it worse off then these prisoners.

And finally, a large majority of the the cost of executing a person is that person's upkeep while in prison, not to mention the enormous cost of multiple appeals trials. Don't quote me on it, but i remember reading somewhere that over 70% of the expense of putting someone to death was eliminated if you took out the above-mentioned items.

^ and this is what happens when you have to write a longish term paper on the pros/cons of the death penalty....