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  • MarkM
    UK Cougars
    • Jul 2002
    • 2433

    #31
    Originally posted by Kevmaster


    Politics don't ever mix well when you get loony guys on both ends together

    Mark's right...this is about the most civilized thread on politics on AO...maybe its because Mark and I are debating facts(Im right ) and nobody else gives a hoot what the reason for the fail of the LON was?

    aye....
    You're right???? ok Japan, yes I gave you that one (as a founder member of the LON) But Japan withdrew from the LON in 1933 and attacked China the following year 1934. Italy withdrew from the LON in 1937 not expelled in 1939 as you said

    June 1935 The Chinese government accepted in writing the terms of the Ho-Umezu Agreement of June 1935. The Chinese withdrew their troops from northeastern China and agreed to end anti-Japanese activities in Hopei.

    Note the year below 1934 not 1933

    December 5, 1934 Ualual Incident in Ethiopia Italian and Ethiopian troops clashed at Ualual on the disputed Ethiopian-Italian Somaliland frontier. The Italians had territorial aspirations on Ethiopia since the debacle at Adua in 1896. Although the Italians gained a minor sphere of influence over part of Ethiopia in 1906 under an Anglo-French agreement, Italian aspirations in East Africa remained unappeased. After World War I, the Italians adopted a treat of friendship with Ethiopia and supported the kingdom's admission into the League of Nations. However, the clash at Ualual reflected a major change in Italian foreign policy towards imperialism. The Italian government demanded an apology from the Ethiopian government and reparations. In response, the Ethiopian government called for an international investigation of the incident. This clash served as the precursor for the beginning of the Italian-Ethiopian War.

    August 1935 Congress passed the first of a number of acts designed to keep the U.S. out of the next world war. When the Italians invaded Ethiopia in May, the State Department drafted a bill which would have given President Roosevelt the power to place an arms embargo on one or all belligerents. On August 17th, the House Foreign Relations Committee rejected the bill and substituted a resolution authorizing the president, after proclaiming the existence of a state of war, to prohibit all arms shipments and forbid American citizens from traveling on belligerent ships, except at their own risk. The Roosevelt administration persuaded Congress to place a six-month limit on arms embargoes. President Roosevelt signed the bill on August 31st, but noted that the law would drag America into war instead of keeping the country out of a conflict. The embargo did not include primary materials such as oil, steel, or copper, and other critical components in war materials production.

    July 1935 LON meets to discuss...In response to the failed arbitration talks between the Italians and Ethiopians in the Hague, the League Council set a date (September 4th) when the Council would begin its own investigation of the situation in East Africa. By that date, the Italian military was prepared to begin its offensive against Ethiopia and Premier Benito Mussolini no longer concealed his goal of the annexation of Ethiopia into the Italian empire.

    July 25, 1935 League Council Intervention in Ethiopian Talks In response to the failed arbitration talks between the Italians and Ethiopians in the Hague, the League Council set a date (September 4th) when the Council would begin its own investigation of the situation in East Africa. By that date, the Italian military was prepared to begin its offensive against Ethiopia and Premier Benito Mussolini no longer concealed his goal of the annexation of Ethiopia into the Italian empire.

    August 1935 Representatives of the governments of France, Britain, and Italy met in Paris to defuse the Ethiopian crisis. The British and French delegates offered the Italians wide opportunities for development in Ethiopia, subject to approval by the Ethiopian government. The Italian representatives rejected the proposals and it became clear that the Italians were determined to go to war in East Africa.

    September 1935 The Ualual Arbitration Tribunal reported that neither Italy nor Ethiopia was to blame for the outbreak of hostilities in the Ualual region because both sides considered the region within their respective borders.

    This was pretty important and shows that the British tried to deal with the Italians
    December 9, 1935 Hoare-Laval Proposals on Abyssinia In a last ditch effort to placate Italian demands in Ethiopia, the British Foreign Minister, Sir Samuel Hoare, and the French Premier, Pierre Laval, offered a proposal to the Italians for the partition of Ethiopia. The plan called for the transfer of territory in Ethiopia, which included Adua and Adigrat in northern Ethiopia and a significant portion of eastern Ethiopia, as well as the establishment of a special Italian economic zone, which included most of southern Ethiopia. In return, the Ethiopians would receive a "corridor for camels" (a small sliver of territory to the Red Sea) between Eritrea and French Somaliland. The French and British abandoned these proposals after a huge outcry from the British public and Sir Samuel was forced to resign from office on December 18th.

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    Mark UK Cougars


    UK Cougars
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    • Rooster
      Registered User
      • Oct 2000
      • 1069

      #32
      The league was useless without the U.S., just as the U.N. would be. An organization has no power without the most powerful nation on the planet backing it. Nor should it.

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      • Collegeboy

        #33
        Originally posted by Rooster
        The league was useless without the U.S., just as the U.N. would be. An organization has no power without the most powerful nation on the planet backing it. Nor should it.
        The US wasn't the most powerful nation between the wars. The LON if given the chance to back its decisions with military power could have succeeded.

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        • Kevmaster
          Owners Group Div: Director
          • Oct 2001
          • 5475

          #34
          give me until tomorrow night...im working all night tonight

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          • -Jôker-
            AOs Original JoKeR
            • Nov 2000
            • 2132

            #35
            Originally posted by ZAust


            he was also an incredible racist.
            i didnt know that,but it doesnt surprise me. the majority of white males back then were extremely prejudist against..well non white males. and you could prob. say the same thing about todays ppl in general but lets not open that can of worms.
            Last edited by -J�ker-; 12-06-2003, 12:47 AM.

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