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  • -Carnifex-
    Registered User
    • Jan 2003
    • 1434

    #106
    Through understanding they can.
    "What we have to accomplish at this time is all the more clear: relentless criticism of all existing conditions, relentless in the sense that the criticism is not afraid of its findings and just as little afraid of the conflict with the powers that be."
    - Karl Marx

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    • FactsOfLife
      Conservative Jihadi
      • May 2002
      • 2504

      #107
      "You persist in trolling, you're gone."

      --Miscue




      'I guess John Kerry went into the primaries without a plan to win the election.' - Ann Coulter
      All you ever needed to know about how the left thinks in one video.
      The Thinking Conservatives Website
      Hey Michael Mooron, THIS is what a documentary looks like.

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      • Rooster
        Registered User
        • Oct 2000
        • 1069

        #108
        Incorrect. Humans can never understand everything. Peace between humans is impossible. And to demonstate the fact that true peace is impossible, as long as one person is willing to do bodily harm to another human, even though they understand everything about another person, true peace doesn't exist. I'm willing to be that person. I'm willing to know everything about you and still to bodily harm to you. Why? To prove I'm right. And that is why true peace can never exist (or at least as long as I'm alive, which is all I care about). So how can true peace exist, if I'm willing to destroy it?

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        • -Carnifex-
          Registered User
          • Jan 2003
          • 1434

          #109
          Exactly, through understanding there can be peace. He never once said it was attainable.

          Edit: I believe understanding brings about tolerance and acceptance, but I'm not going to argue it. I just wanted to refute that Emerson was a blowhard.
          "What we have to accomplish at this time is all the more clear: relentless criticism of all existing conditions, relentless in the sense that the criticism is not afraid of its findings and just as little afraid of the conflict with the powers that be."
          - Karl Marx

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          • tony3
            LOOKING FOR AN ASIAN GF!!!
            • Feb 2003
            • 3740

            #110
            "The truth is, you could slit my throat, and with my one, last gasping breath I'd apoligize for bleeding on your shirt" taking back sunday-your so last summer

            "Don't hold your breath, you'll only make things worse."Taking Back Sunday-Cute without the e cut from the team

            "Your so guilty it's disgusting."Taking Back Sunday-Blue channel

            "Like puddles in the rain, we wash away."Taking Back Sunday-The things we'll never know

            "you said "we're only friends." yeah, real good friends, i bet. i bet." Taking Back Sunday-The Ballad of Sal Villanueva

            "well which would you prefer, My finger on the trigger, or me face down, down across your floor" Taking Back Sunday-Cute without the E cut from the team

            "Hoping for the best is hoping nothing happens"Taking Back Sunday-Cute without the E cut from the team

            "No longer cool, but a boy in a stitch,
            unprepared for a life full of lies and failing relationships."Brand New-Sic Transit Gloria

            "He keeps his hands pinned down at his sides.
            He's holding back from telling her
            exactly what it really feels like."Brand New-Sic Transit Gloria

            "Back in school they never taught us
            what we needed to know
            Like how to deal with despair
            or someone breakin your heart"Brand New-77 times 7

            "They say you need to pray
            if you want to go to heaven
            But they don't tell you what to say
            when your whole life has gone to Hell!"Brand New-77 times 7

            "Cause I've seen more spine on jellyfish
            I've seen more guts on eleven-year-old kids
            Have another drink and drive yourself home
            I hope there's ice on all the roads
            And you can think of me when you forget your seatbelt
            and again when your head goes through the windshield"Brand New-77 times 7

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            • Rooster
              Registered User
              • Oct 2000
              • 1069

              #111
              "Exactly, through understanding there can be peace. He never once said it was attainable.

              Edit: I believe understanding brings about tolerance and acceptance, but I'm not going to argue it. I just wanted to refute that Emerson was a blowhard."

              Then what he said is tantamount to: "If I knew everything, I would be the smartest man alive." No kidding. What good are grand statments of purpose, if they can't be applied to reality? They mean nothing. Emerson was not just a blowhard, but a self-important blowhard. While I find Henry David Thoreau extremely banal and asinine (why use civil disobediance within the system, when you can use civil unrest and overthrow the system, unless your idea wasn't that popular and no one would have backed a revolution, so you should have just kept your mouth shut) at least he had the fortitude to test his ideas. Emerson just spouted platitudes to the mindless masses.

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              • -Carnifex-
                Registered User
                • Jan 2003
                • 1434

                #112
                He didn't say that at all. It was more than likely a reference to Transcedentalism than the world, i.e. communion with nature bringing about a sense of peace.
                "What we have to accomplish at this time is all the more clear: relentless criticism of all existing conditions, relentless in the sense that the criticism is not afraid of its findings and just as little afraid of the conflict with the powers that be."
                - Karl Marx

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