b16a Questions.

[Butterfingers]

I used to like souping up hondas but I realized that doing so would require more work than i care to put into a car. I mean you are looking a few thousand for the engine a few thousand for supporting parts and a few thousand for the car itself. THen probably a few thousand on parts and labor required for an install...

Then you have yourself a car that wont hold a candle to a WRX or a Turboed DSM with some simple bolt ons.

Go used WRX if you can... Turboed AWD... The engine is made for Boost. If you want to go fast in an import this is your best bet. Exhaust and boost control will net 13.2 1/4 mi slips all day. A turbo upgrade will put you in sold 12's. Daily driven full interior reliable as a workhorse. Not to mention a 5 star saftey rating.

This car never fails to amaze me once that factory exhaust comes off... we are talking real drastic gains.

Ive seen a bolt on one pull on a s2000 like it were standing still, a b20 integra like it were standing still. Ran a 5.0 mustang with heads and cams and BPU up to 150.

If you need to go lower go for a used DSM turbo. Those things get real fast real quick. Put a big 16G turbo on there and you will be possibly kissing 11's on the stock motor.

Just my 2 cents.

[AssassN]

I don't quarter mile so quarter mile times are not a HUGE issue. Granted quarter mile times tell a vehicles speed but when the tracks im driving on have straits of mainly 1/8 mile quarter mile times are sometimes irrelivent. If I can get the hp to around 300 on a car weighing no more than 2000lbs that will be fine.

[Butterfingers]

your gonna need a big honkin turbo and probably nirtous to spool that baby on a 1.6l engine to get 300 whp out of that car.

You are going to have to change the pistons and rods to stronger lower compression units to prevent detonation or knocking... yar are talking big bux here. Cant really run boost on pump fuel on a 10+ CR.

I mean if you do all of that... we are talking an 11 sec CRX.

[FeuerFri]

never buy a car with an engine with less liters than my bottle of faygo here bud. buy a early neon r/t or expresso 5-speed and you will be amazed at what a lil torque can do lol. a stock r/t or a regular 2.0 with intake and exhaust can usually hang with v6 gt tibbys. i know it may be hard to believe that a neon is fast, but visit www.neons.org and look around, great info there. they respond well to mods, handle great, and are just plan fun to drive. plus the amusing look of ricers when you spank them beat red and they try making those horrid excusses like "well, im set up for drifting, not drag, so it is no suprise you won" lol.

as for the engine swap aftermarket, you wanna buy stuff for the specific engine you have, not for the crx cause those parts will be for the stock engine. although the suspension parts will be for crx. get the cable tranny, from what i read, the hydro trannys just dont feel as sporty. 17s, god no. when you goto bigger wheels, you will suffer messed up(inaccurate) mph readings, and you will be slower, i dont remember the specifics but i remember there being something like a 3.94 geared tranny will act as though it has 3.84 gearing, and it creates more drag on the car,

[Gotenks]

Don't get a neon.

And guys, I dont think he's building a drag racer, according to what he said I think.

go with 16 inch wheels, 17's are too large, 16 inch wheels will give you good enough handling response, and will be lighter.

I'm 17 years old, and was really aiming towards a civic hatchback, and before I got my drivers license, I read Joe Pettits honda builders handbook, and I read a book called "Maximum Boost" and you can find them on amazon.com, and I highly suggest you read them.

I ended up getting a Mazda RX-7, High insurance, poor gas mileage, and high maintenance

But it's worth it, and I know its going to rock.

I'm saving up right now for some Enkei RP-F1 wheels, 17 x 8 in the front, and 17 x 9 in the back, the wheels are 16 pounds too, very lightweight for their cost, they are built using some roller forge technique, whatever that may be

GL with your car, and I highly suggest you spend some time around www.honda-tech.com, they know their stuff. Great forum.

[FeuerFri]

why do you say don't get a neon? a pre 99 r/t came with the dohc, which has the most potential out of all the neon engines, plus your starting at 150hp. a simple cai will put you right where you would be with the engine swap, and you would have torque to match. it never gets old to see a car with 195hp and 117tq. sure the car will weight more, but ohwell, weight redux is free... i don't think the weight of the car would make a huge impact in 1/8 or 1/4 mile times to much, it would be a factor if you end up getting into auto'xing, and if you are possably looking into auto'xing than that would the ONLY time i would sugguest a crx or the likes. but whatever, its your money, have fun and god speed.

[Butterfingers]

the only neon that will EVER have potential will be the SRT 4 Period.

Id hate to say it but a 1.6l B16 swapped CRX will almost always lay waste to a NA neon. 14 sec car is faster than a 16 second car. Plus the b16 engine starts with 160hp.

Weight redux makes a huge diffrence in the 1/4 mi.

Thats why you see 600 lb bikes flying down the 1/4 in 10 seconds with only 110hp and 95 lb/ ft of tourque.

You wanna hang with the big boys for not so much $$$ and time you need factory boost or big displacement. PERIOD

[AssassN]

Well I was talking to my dad about the CRX and he said that he had been thinking about getting me an RSX (god knows where he plans on getting the money). Anyway, I think that he will contribute to the CRX.

That said I am leaning toward the b18c or even the b20. I think that with a little finacial aid from daddy I could pull it off.

I also currently have a 95 Nissan Sentra with a whooping 21k mostly highway miles. All the belts and hoses and filters and the like have been replaced, it has been repianted, 99% of the dents taken out, nearly limo tent, new wheels, new tires, the interior has been redone. It has new pin striping and my cousin did this custom design (doens't sound like much but it really adds to the car).

It really looks good and I think I can get pretty good cash for it. It has 0 problems except for a couple small dings in it. Ohh ya and it is an automatic with 225 JBL speakers.

I am really set on the CRX, I like the teardrop look of the hatchback and I am inlove with the weight of the CRX HL. The only thing I don't like is front wheel drive, sigh, oh well.

The set up I plan to have on it is:
88 CRX Hl
b20
AEM v2 intake
Greddy exhaust
AEM pulley
AEM cam gears
new pistons with new piston sleeves (stock b20 sleeves are somewhat weak)

There is alot more but those are the basics im putting on it. I am aware that I will need alot more to get it running like: shift linkage, axles, tranny, power steering pump, ECU, wireing, etc.

There is a honda tuner right behind my house who can do most of the work (although I plan on helping to learn how to do it myself). My mom is also friends with Bobby Archer who can give me tips on stuff to buy.

I've got along way to get this off the ground but I think I am pretty much set on it, thanks for all your help.