A CNN Article that just annoys me to no end!!!
Link to a one sided moron's article
I'm going to post her article below and argue with it.
(yes it makes me feel better)
LOS ANGELES, California (CNN) -- For years the University of Southern California has had a reputation for being a politically conservative campus.
Even if that's true (and I have no idea) being conservative in Southern California is thinking 10 is too young to have more then one abortion.
Yet even on a campus where most students remain more interested in football than politics, some are beginning to see a shift to the left as student Democrats gain numbers and become more involved in the political arena.
A shift to the left on a college campus in SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA? You don't say. What's next? People going to church in the bible belt?
Some students and faculty members said they think such recent events as the controversial 2000 election and the war in Iraq will spark more students to get involved in politics and vote in the 2004 presidential election.
In other words, the two things that anger liberals the most have sparked a new interest in politics. What they aren't telling you in this article is the reason is the liberal faculty is ingraining in these kids head that those two events are the sign of the next apocalypse and it's time to stop Bush before the he personally ends the world
"USC itself has changed a great deal over time," said Ann Crigler, director of the Jesse M. Unruh Institute of Politics.
Uh-huh. They are aware that campuses like USC are where the anti-war liberals got their start aren't they? Campuses accross the nation made that shift decades ago, and they're noticing now?
"The student body has become much more diverse. ... That diversity has coincided with a much more diverse [and] dynamic political spectrum."
Diversity creates diversness? Um, gee, thanks. Next they'll be telling us buckets of water create water surronded by plastic containers.
Crigler said that when she came to USC in 1988 she assumed the school would be very conservative.
Oh yeah? Why, and in what way? They never really tell you what conservative means in this context.
She said through the years, however, she has noticed a shift to the left among students' political preferences and among the political organizations on campus.
In the past, she said, Republicans had the strongest political organization on campus; now it's the Democrats.
Yeah, and? In my college the conservative oraganization was bigger then almost all the other ones. You know why? Because we had everyone in our ONE organization and the liberals that outnumbered 10:1 had 50 organizations. They don't really talk about the number of organizations do they?
Deryn Sumner, a senior majoring in political science and president of the USC Democrats club, can attest to that.
The 385-member club is the largest political organization on campus, and its consistent presence at statewide Democratic events makes it one of the strongest Democratic clubs in California, Sumner said.
Well woopee for them. I suppose that's conservative tilt they're talking about?
She said recruiting Democrats for the club has gotten easier every year. "Each incoming class is more politically aware and less conservative," Sumner said.
Oh, so being poltically aware and being liberal are the same thing are they? I suppose the reason I'm conservative, despite being spoon fed liberalism my 5 years of college (don't start, accounting is 5 years in NJ now) is because I wasn't paying attention to politics.
Russell Scherer, a senior majoring in public policy and management who is chairman of the USC Republicans, said the club's membership, now about 224, has increased every year, too.
But not do to poltical awareness. Russell probably has a big screen TV or something.
Richard Dekmejian, a political science professor who has been teaching at USC since 1986, said the political feeling among students is not the same as it was 15 years ago.
Oh? And what was it 15 years ago I wonder?
Changing demographics
He said he thinks the political change is probably a result of USC's increasing admission standards, which have changed the demographics of the student body.
IN other words, now that they have a non-quota system to encourage diversity the general consensus has shifted to the left, since it's the lefties that thinks it's ok to disriminate in the fashion that got these people into college in the first place.
"USC students are far brighter and much more discerning than they were when I first came here," he said. "A lot of people don't know what's happened here, how the grade point average has gone up."
Two things here. Since when does diversity programs create smarter students? SInce those programs are designed to get less qualified people into school then how could they be brighter now? It seems to me that if they just took people baed on their qualications that would increase their chances of getting qualified people.
And second. The author is ignoring the recent data showing that colleges all accross the nation are skewing grading in order to make it look like kids are doing better. It has also been widely complained that the actual material being taught has been made easier.
He has already seen signs of increasing involvement, and strong opposition to the U.S.- led war in Iraq will "definitely" cause more students to vote, he said.
It won't defniitly cause them to vote. It will probably cause them to hang on at the "quad" with signs denouncing Bush and "No Blood for Oil". And again, increasing involvement = Liberal Agenda.
Sumner agreed that "the war issue is a powerful issue, and it gets people involved [from] both sides." She said that as the election nears she already sees more people getting involved.
Well apparently it doesn't get people more involved from both sides, since we just heard that being either poltically aware or involved means you're liberal
Dekmejian said the 2000 election strengthened students' determination to vote.
"Students are very aware that U.S. democracy has ... weaknesses," Dekmejian said.
And what would those be? That they're candidate lost a very close election?
Sumner too has noticed a shift among the students in her club and among non-club members who approach her.
"Everyone in general has been paying more attention just because the election of 2000 was so notorious and infamous. People are going to saying, 'Remember what happened four years ago,'" Sumner said.
Two very negative words about the election that went a Republican's way. And people aren't saying that, angry liberals who think the election was stolen do.
Increased political participation was evident earlier this year when the gubernatorial recall election, along with Proposition 54, which sought to end classification by race and ethnicity, dominated the political scene in California.
Ah yes, the recall where the corrupt democrat was cast aside by a Repulican for the first time in a while in California. But, I don't see that being mentioned.
Bich Ngoc Cao, president of USC for Dean and managing editor of the alternative newspaper The Trojan Horse, said she saw previously uninvolved students participate in politics in response to the recall, and especially in response to Proposition 54, which she said made many students feel personally affected.
I'm sure that students in a campus that recuits based on the "diveristy factor" were very involved in defeating prop 54. If that had passed then those kids would have needed to earn their way into college.
Because the recall was successful, she said Democratic students have begun to realize that they need to get involved. She said she has already witnessed this involvement extend toward the presidential election.
I thought they were involved. It just said that they got involved in the race. Maybe it should have taught them not to sponsor corrupt polticians like Gray Davis. Instead it just got them angry that their corrupt candidate lost. Next time they'll get an even MORE corrupt guy and then they'll show us!
"People I know are getting involved in really, really deep levels that I haven't seen before," said Cao, a senior majoring in print journalism and political science.
Yeah, they're using stencils instead of hand written signs that say No Blood for oil
"It's dawning on people that if we don't do something this year, next year we're going to re-elect [President Bush]," she added.
Actually, if they don't do something next year then I'll re-elect Bush. Since if they're not participating that means they didn't vote. And if you don't vote you can elect or re-elect anyone
Despite these political shifts, however, the conservative stereotype is still strong. While USC Democrats may be the largest political club on campus, the club has yet to find recognition outside the campus gates.
I'm sorry. But I thought I remembered reading a few paragraphs back that it was a large and influential group in all of California politics. Now it's not even as recognized as the chess club?
"Other college Democratic clubs in the state say, 'Oh, USC, we're surprised you even have a Democratic club,'" Sumner said. "People view us as rich kids who vote Republican because [our] parents do."
I was aware the cities where all the rich people live in California were bastions of conservative thought. San Fracisco and LA don't stike me as where all the pro Bush rallies happen
One possible explanation for USC's conservative label dates to the early 1970s, when several conservative Republican alumni, known as the "USC mafia," served on President Nixon's White House staff or in his 1972 re-election campaign, which was later tainted by revelations of "dirty tricks" as part of the Watergate scandal.
30 years ago some Nixon guys went to school there and that's why it's conservative? I guess that means that California is conservative too, since Reagan was once governor.
While this incident is probably not the only reason for USC's conservative label, many agree that it reinforced the view.
Probably not the only reason? Well, if the school has such a well established reputation for being conservative would someone like to tell me why? Or in what fashion is that reputation fashioned? Or is it one of those "well that's what I heard" things?
"I think it certainly contributed to it," Crigler said.
Well, since that's the only reason any of you have maybe you don't have the rep you seem to think you do.
Cao said that although there are actually few conservative organizations on campus, the conservative atmosphere today has remained because most students do not express their political beliefs.
The atmosphere on the campus is conservative? So I guess that means every practives abstinance and wears school uniforms? Too bad those big mean conservatices keep everyone else from expressing their beliefs.
And what is this consertive atmosphere? They never really desribe it do they?
"USC is very apathetic," Cao said. "There are a lot of liberal students here. Most people just don't express themselves about their politics."
Well, is it conservatice or apathetic? Or are the two words the same? Being consertive means being apathetic now?
Crigler agreed that politics is not the first priority for most students. But overall, she said, the level of political interest among USC students is "pretty typical [of] most college campuses."
Oh. Pretty typical. My college wasn't ruled by the consertive overlords while all the other liberal students had to hide in fear that we were going to steal their cookies.
Thanks for letting me rant. This article has been under my skin all week.
I'm going to post her article below and argue with it.
(yes it makes me feel better)
LOS ANGELES, California (CNN) -- For years the University of Southern California has had a reputation for being a politically conservative campus.
Even if that's true (and I have no idea) being conservative in Southern California is thinking 10 is too young to have more then one abortion.
Yet even on a campus where most students remain more interested in football than politics, some are beginning to see a shift to the left as student Democrats gain numbers and become more involved in the political arena.
A shift to the left on a college campus in SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA? You don't say. What's next? People going to church in the bible belt?
Some students and faculty members said they think such recent events as the controversial 2000 election and the war in Iraq will spark more students to get involved in politics and vote in the 2004 presidential election.
In other words, the two things that anger liberals the most have sparked a new interest in politics. What they aren't telling you in this article is the reason is the liberal faculty is ingraining in these kids head that those two events are the sign of the next apocalypse and it's time to stop Bush before the he personally ends the world
"USC itself has changed a great deal over time," said Ann Crigler, director of the Jesse M. Unruh Institute of Politics.
Uh-huh. They are aware that campuses like USC are where the anti-war liberals got their start aren't they? Campuses accross the nation made that shift decades ago, and they're noticing now?
"The student body has become much more diverse. ... That diversity has coincided with a much more diverse [and] dynamic political spectrum."
Diversity creates diversness? Um, gee, thanks. Next they'll be telling us buckets of water create water surronded by plastic containers.
Crigler said that when she came to USC in 1988 she assumed the school would be very conservative.
Oh yeah? Why, and in what way? They never really tell you what conservative means in this context.
She said through the years, however, she has noticed a shift to the left among students' political preferences and among the political organizations on campus.
In the past, she said, Republicans had the strongest political organization on campus; now it's the Democrats.
Yeah, and? In my college the conservative oraganization was bigger then almost all the other ones. You know why? Because we had everyone in our ONE organization and the liberals that outnumbered 10:1 had 50 organizations. They don't really talk about the number of organizations do they?
Deryn Sumner, a senior majoring in political science and president of the USC Democrats club, can attest to that.
The 385-member club is the largest political organization on campus, and its consistent presence at statewide Democratic events makes it one of the strongest Democratic clubs in California, Sumner said.
Well woopee for them. I suppose that's conservative tilt they're talking about?
She said recruiting Democrats for the club has gotten easier every year. "Each incoming class is more politically aware and less conservative," Sumner said.
Oh, so being poltically aware and being liberal are the same thing are they? I suppose the reason I'm conservative, despite being spoon fed liberalism my 5 years of college (don't start, accounting is 5 years in NJ now) is because I wasn't paying attention to politics.
Russell Scherer, a senior majoring in public policy and management who is chairman of the USC Republicans, said the club's membership, now about 224, has increased every year, too.
But not do to poltical awareness. Russell probably has a big screen TV or something.
Richard Dekmejian, a political science professor who has been teaching at USC since 1986, said the political feeling among students is not the same as it was 15 years ago.
Oh? And what was it 15 years ago I wonder?
Changing demographics
He said he thinks the political change is probably a result of USC's increasing admission standards, which have changed the demographics of the student body.
IN other words, now that they have a non-quota system to encourage diversity the general consensus has shifted to the left, since it's the lefties that thinks it's ok to disriminate in the fashion that got these people into college in the first place.
"USC students are far brighter and much more discerning than they were when I first came here," he said. "A lot of people don't know what's happened here, how the grade point average has gone up."
Two things here. Since when does diversity programs create smarter students? SInce those programs are designed to get less qualified people into school then how could they be brighter now? It seems to me that if they just took people baed on their qualications that would increase their chances of getting qualified people.
And second. The author is ignoring the recent data showing that colleges all accross the nation are skewing grading in order to make it look like kids are doing better. It has also been widely complained that the actual material being taught has been made easier.
He has already seen signs of increasing involvement, and strong opposition to the U.S.- led war in Iraq will "definitely" cause more students to vote, he said.
It won't defniitly cause them to vote. It will probably cause them to hang on at the "quad" with signs denouncing Bush and "No Blood for Oil". And again, increasing involvement = Liberal Agenda.
Sumner agreed that "the war issue is a powerful issue, and it gets people involved [from] both sides." She said that as the election nears she already sees more people getting involved.
Well apparently it doesn't get people more involved from both sides, since we just heard that being either poltically aware or involved means you're liberal
Dekmejian said the 2000 election strengthened students' determination to vote.
"Students are very aware that U.S. democracy has ... weaknesses," Dekmejian said.
And what would those be? That they're candidate lost a very close election?
Sumner too has noticed a shift among the students in her club and among non-club members who approach her.
"Everyone in general has been paying more attention just because the election of 2000 was so notorious and infamous. People are going to saying, 'Remember what happened four years ago,'" Sumner said.
Two very negative words about the election that went a Republican's way. And people aren't saying that, angry liberals who think the election was stolen do.
Increased political participation was evident earlier this year when the gubernatorial recall election, along with Proposition 54, which sought to end classification by race and ethnicity, dominated the political scene in California.
Ah yes, the recall where the corrupt democrat was cast aside by a Repulican for the first time in a while in California. But, I don't see that being mentioned.
Bich Ngoc Cao, president of USC for Dean and managing editor of the alternative newspaper The Trojan Horse, said she saw previously uninvolved students participate in politics in response to the recall, and especially in response to Proposition 54, which she said made many students feel personally affected.
I'm sure that students in a campus that recuits based on the "diveristy factor" were very involved in defeating prop 54. If that had passed then those kids would have needed to earn their way into college.
Because the recall was successful, she said Democratic students have begun to realize that they need to get involved. She said she has already witnessed this involvement extend toward the presidential election.
I thought they were involved. It just said that they got involved in the race. Maybe it should have taught them not to sponsor corrupt polticians like Gray Davis. Instead it just got them angry that their corrupt candidate lost. Next time they'll get an even MORE corrupt guy and then they'll show us!
"People I know are getting involved in really, really deep levels that I haven't seen before," said Cao, a senior majoring in print journalism and political science.
Yeah, they're using stencils instead of hand written signs that say No Blood for oil
"It's dawning on people that if we don't do something this year, next year we're going to re-elect [President Bush]," she added.
Actually, if they don't do something next year then I'll re-elect Bush. Since if they're not participating that means they didn't vote. And if you don't vote you can elect or re-elect anyone
Despite these political shifts, however, the conservative stereotype is still strong. While USC Democrats may be the largest political club on campus, the club has yet to find recognition outside the campus gates.
I'm sorry. But I thought I remembered reading a few paragraphs back that it was a large and influential group in all of California politics. Now it's not even as recognized as the chess club?
"Other college Democratic clubs in the state say, 'Oh, USC, we're surprised you even have a Democratic club,'" Sumner said. "People view us as rich kids who vote Republican because [our] parents do."
I was aware the cities where all the rich people live in California were bastions of conservative thought. San Fracisco and LA don't stike me as where all the pro Bush rallies happen
One possible explanation for USC's conservative label dates to the early 1970s, when several conservative Republican alumni, known as the "USC mafia," served on President Nixon's White House staff or in his 1972 re-election campaign, which was later tainted by revelations of "dirty tricks" as part of the Watergate scandal.
30 years ago some Nixon guys went to school there and that's why it's conservative? I guess that means that California is conservative too, since Reagan was once governor.
While this incident is probably not the only reason for USC's conservative label, many agree that it reinforced the view.
Probably not the only reason? Well, if the school has such a well established reputation for being conservative would someone like to tell me why? Or in what fashion is that reputation fashioned? Or is it one of those "well that's what I heard" things?
"I think it certainly contributed to it," Crigler said.
Well, since that's the only reason any of you have maybe you don't have the rep you seem to think you do.
Cao said that although there are actually few conservative organizations on campus, the conservative atmosphere today has remained because most students do not express their political beliefs.
The atmosphere on the campus is conservative? So I guess that means every practives abstinance and wears school uniforms? Too bad those big mean conservatices keep everyone else from expressing their beliefs.
And what is this consertive atmosphere? They never really desribe it do they?
"USC is very apathetic," Cao said. "There are a lot of liberal students here. Most people just don't express themselves about their politics."
Well, is it conservatice or apathetic? Or are the two words the same? Being consertive means being apathetic now?
Crigler agreed that politics is not the first priority for most students. But overall, she said, the level of political interest among USC students is "pretty typical [of] most college campuses."
Oh. Pretty typical. My college wasn't ruled by the consertive overlords while all the other liberal students had to hide in fear that we were going to steal their cookies.
Thanks for letting me rant. This article has been under my skin all week.
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