BioDiesel update

[cphilip]

Originally posted by Jack_Dubious


i dont know why but i want to pronounce that word as "tit-rate".

phil that looks like a cool setup...but are you sure you just didnt scavenge parts from your old methamphetamine lab??

JDub

hehe... No its more like "TIE TRATE"

Nope... sorry but all new stuff. Major plastic tanks there though and pumps and heaters and stuff. Cost me like 2 grand to build this thing.

[ASDadam]

Its his still, and his Vespa is his moonshine runner.

No one would suspect someone in a Vespa running moonshine.

[impostal22]

if diesel is better for the environment...why do so many enviornmental agencies seek to regulate the selling of it?

[ASDadam]

impostal, please, find proof that desiel is so bad, link it here, then try and throw your propaganda.

[Rooster]

"if diesel is better for the environment...why do so many enviornmental agencies seek to regulate the selling of it?"

Becuase environmentalists are liberals, liberals are stupid, as such environmentalists are stupid. The small liberal mind sees black smoke and thinks "Hmm black smoke, got to be bad. Let me waste my money on a stupid organization to ban all black smoke."

[cphilip]

You mean agency (singular) or environmentalists groups?

Some environmentalist groups are PUSHING the switch to Diesel.

The EPA is the only agency that Regulates though... and its all regulated postal. Gas.. Diesel etc... any fuel is and every fuel is looked at in several ways as to its impact. Your thinking EPA and emmissions here. And yes they are regulating it and as in the case of Gas seeking to regulate it even more. In this case I mentioned the one area they are working on. But lets not forget visible soot from a non efficently running engine does not bad pollution make. More often the more deadly things in vehicle emmissions are invisible. And most of those are lower in Diesel. Except for NOx. So thats the one low sulfur fuel is designed to bring down. And yes that is a regulation. Just like Gassoline is regulated and emmissions regulated. Same thing. Where do you get the idea that its something new? Its always been regulated. That still does not infer its not better! As it is!

Now the move here now is to lower the NOx emmissions because thats the only real remaining issue with it. All the other stuff is superior! So how does that make it worse if its already better in all 19 categories and gets better efficency so it gives more miles per gallon and its more readily available and cheaper to make! I mean lets get real here! Plus the engines are known to last twice as long!

The real issue here in the US is that the average Joe has not been willing to learn the issues and feel comfortable with Diesel engines. Unfortunately some early car manufacturers put out some weak poor diesel engines and scared the market off. But we know there are good ones in cars and now it seem the public is warming to the idea because its better. Mercedes, Toyota for example have long made Diesel cars. Run forever!


Ecologicaly includes how many miles will it get per gallon and how many junk cars are eliminated because a Diesel engine lasts twice as long as a Gas counterpart. The whole picture has to be included to get the real ecological effect. There are a few organizations out there that are ignorant and spew forth ignorant rants and thats were you get your info from. They concentrate on one emmission without mentioning the lower values of the others nor the other benifits that make it ecologicaly the better overall choice. Do some checking into it from credible sources and look at the whole picture and you will quickly find out some of these groups are saddly mistaken and simple minded.

[Python14]

Diesel is, and always has been my favorite fuel. :)

Heck, the fastest sport pickup is a diesel, and it get's 20+ mpg and has cleaner emissions than most vehicles.

And best of all, Turbo charged diesels sound awsome.

Point of my post? none

[FactsOfLife]

Phil's truck is going to be driving around smelling like French Fries....

[cphilip]

SWEEEEEEET!

[joez]

The only problem with the push for low sulfur diesel fuel is that it realy looses its lubricating properties. A lot of the older diesels (like mine) really need the lubrication of the fuel for things like the lift pump, injection pump, ect. But since there are quality additives available this really isnt an issue anymore. Diesels are running cleaner than ever, and unforunatly, quieter as well. I love the sound of my 379 with the massive sewer-pipe exhaust.

Best part about the diesels as has already been mentioned, is the efficiency. My 6K pound barn on wheels gets an average of between 20-25 mpg. My house is more aerodynamic.

cphilip, you will have to update us on how well your fuel works out for you. I know i would love to start making my own, especially with how much i drive. Also, let us know if you have any noticeable power loss with it. Im underpowered to begin with, and dont want it to get worse before it gets better.

[cphilip]

Yep... more additives and more cost for the base. Thats the downside. Gonna cost more. No doubt.

I do not intend to run it straight in my truck. Probably blend it. Maybe like 10% or so. But I will be sending out for testing and all so I should be able to give you real BTU's and all on it. It will vary from batch to batch depending on the quality of the used oil I get each time.

Will do. I gonna be running some hopefully in some tractors in less than a month or so. And of course I will keep you up to date every once in a while By the end of next week I should post up a picture of it all put together and ready to fill.

[magking1971]

Hey phil, If I took like a old chevette with a 4 banger diesel in it could it run used filtered veggie oil?
I love diesels and Biodiesel and would love to play with the two, is there any website or good books to pick up and learn more about both?

[cphilip]

Sure can! Any diesel motor can run on it.

I got a few web sites book marked at work. Monday I will put em up here for ya. I do not happen to have them handy right now. There is a forum though. Good stuff there. I just forget right off hand what the name of it is...

[impostal22]

Originally posted by ASDadam
impostal, please, find proof that desiel is so bad, link it here, then try and throw your propaganda.

i was seeking understanding. i wasn't trying to change the thoughts of others. i'm real sick of the people on this forum being so testy.

Do some checking into it from credible sources and look at the whole picture and you will quickly find out some of these groups are saddly mistaken and simple minded.

i tend to always do research on a topic before i post about it here, knowing a key few of the members are quick to condescend and call anyone a liar for disagreeing. thing is, i had trouble finding stuff about diesel. dunno why. that's why i posted. thank you for the explanation, helped greatly. again, i was just seeking understanding, not putting your catalyst processor down. if anything, it intrigued me enough to seek understanding.

[fire1811]

they want to regulate in since you get more miles per gallon and your engine lasts longer. that why there buddies in the vehicle industry can sell more vehicles
one hand washes the other

really nothing to do with the enviroment