3 axis mill "to" 4 axis??

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  • luke
    lukescustoms.com

    • Jan 2001
    • 8211

    #1

    3 axis mill "to" 4 axis??

    I remember a conversation with someone, I think it was "manike", he said any it was possible to convert any 3 axis mill to 4 axis. Can someone explain how to do it. It seems to me that you would simply buy an attachment to bolt to the table, but that's just a guess.
  • bertmcmahan
    Not pop, it's all Coke
    • Jan 2002
    • 1960

    #2
    What exactly is the difference between 3 and 4?
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    • Fred
      AO Zealot
      • Feb 2002
      • 2624

      #3
      i believe the bed can rotate... but as I'm a milling newb, it might depend on the machine.

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      • Big'n slo
        Sponsored by...my paycheck
        • Mar 2003
        • 1909

        #4
        I'm pretty sure Fred is correct. You can drop a horiz/vert. rotary table on any standard mill. Fix your workpiece to it and you've got yourself a 4th axis.

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        • bertmcmahan
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          • Jan 2002
          • 1960

          #5
          Ahhh, I see. I didn't know that was a 4th axis.
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          • luke
            lukescustoms.com

            • Jan 2001
            • 8211

            #6
            Yes, I do have a Rotary table, I suppose that would be a 4th axis, but not the answer I was looking for.

            If I remember correctly, the way manike explained it was something like this "extend your arm out as if you were pointing at some one, now rotate your hand in a circle, that is your 4 axis". Was he referring to the rotary table used in the vertical mount?

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            • Big'n slo
              Sponsored by...my paycheck
              • Mar 2003
              • 1909

              #7
              Luke,
              That can be mounted horiz. or vertically depending on your needs.

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              • luke
                lukescustoms.com

                • Jan 2001
                • 8211

                #8
                "That can be mounted horiz. or vertically depending on your needs."

                Yes sir, MOST can, mine does. But, is that considered the "standard" 4th axis?

                I guess any "movement" other than xyz would be considered a 4 axis.

                How about this, if I were to buy a 4 axis mill, what would the 4th axis be... 1. left-right, 2. fore ward-back, 3. up-down, and 4. (?)

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                • Big'n slo
                  Sponsored by...my paycheck
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 1909

                  #9
                  Yeah, I believe the "standard" fourth axis is "turning" on a mill. But as you said, any movement added to xyz would be the fourth axis.
                  All machines that I've seen advertised as 4 axis have had the rotary table as the 4th.

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                  • Southpaw
                    Registered User
                    • Aug 2003
                    • 534

                    #10
                    Yes the 4th would be a clockwise/counterclockwise turning to make more complex shapes.
                    I think there for, I am I think. am I?

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                    • luke
                      lukescustoms.com

                      • Jan 2001
                      • 8211

                      #11
                      That's interesting, I would have thought that the "standard" 4th axis would have been a tilt table of sorts, because with CNC you can cut a curve by controlling the x&y axis....


                      Big'n slo where did you find the that table? I'm still looking for places to by tooling and accessories....

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                      • steveg
                        Member
                        • May 2001
                        • 460

                        #12
                        still at it I see
                        yes what big'n slo showed you is indeed a "4th axis"
                        you would install the rotary table in the horizantal position.
                        The table can be had with a tailstock as well
                        so that you can hold a longer part between centers.

                        If you are working on round parts a lathe chuck can be
                        mounted to the face of the table.

                        as to where to buy why not back to grizzly
                        httphttp://www.grizzly.com/catalog/2004/475.cfm?
                        this one perhaps http://www.grizzly.com/products/item...emnumber=G1049
                        Last edited by steveg; 02-09-2004, 07:22 AM.

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                        • luke
                          lukescustoms.com

                          • Jan 2001
                          • 8211

                          #13
                          Hey Steve,
                          Yea I'm still at it! (every day)

                          Is there such a thing as a powered tilt table for CNC? I'm trying to figure out how cut an angle on the top of a work peace with CNC. The head on my mill tilts, but I wouldn't think you could control that with CNC... (?)

                          BTW, I have a 10" rotary table (manual).....

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                          • steveg
                            Member
                            • May 2001
                            • 460

                            #14
                            the simplist way is to bolt an angle plate to the rotary
                            table. thats the most common way that I have seen

                            the really expensive way is like this http://www.tsudakoma.co.jp/mta/english/index.html
                            (third table down)

                            I'm having a hard time with the internet today most of my
                            posts are not making it

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                            • luke
                              lukescustoms.com

                              • Jan 2001
                              • 8211

                              #15
                              GRRRRR. So I should have bought the rotary table with the angle plate right out of the gate....

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