Ford Vs Gm Vs Mopar

[PyRo]

Which one is better

[devildog]

well, my opinion is based because i only like muscle cars, so i easily voted for mopar. no motor to date can touch the ORIGINAL 426 hemi, the new 350 hemi dodge came out with is crap, but the 426 is the god of motors. whether it be a plymouth duster, or a dodge charger, mopar owns.

p.s.

i drive a 71 duster with a 426 hemi roaring under the hood, ill try to get some pics when i get out of this place im in. still needs some work though.

[magman007]

the best truck out to date, with a diesel engine (it isnt a real truck if it isnt a diesel)

is the new gmc with their alison tranny and there new duramax diesel

if your looking into gas, well the f150 has a step above the dodge hemi


diesel trucks again, ford is always solid, but their tranny cannot beat the allison, and it is known to have some problems, just ask any one that was at the IAO, they know my problems i had with my dualie, and the trannie giving out

[cphilip]

Well your a little off on that assumption of the Diesels but partly right.

Unfortunatly lots of those Chevy Alisons are biting the dust.... They all reporting issues with it. A lot of them are biting the dust. Seems Chevy had Alisson "redesign" it for them. As a cheaper production model. Alisson is not really that proud of the results. They did not want to do it. But Chevy rejected thier first design as too expensive. So they did cheap it up some. But I am certain they will sort it out eventually. If you want one I would wait a year or so to get it. They are also having some real issues with the Duramax engine but I think they have them about solved. Again... something natural when you mate two things and have to see what they do out in the field.

Ford has just now started sorting out it's simialr problems with the new 6.0L Diesel. DO NOT BUY and early 2003! The old 7.3L is still a great engine. But wait to buy a 2004 of the 6.0L. Similar thing with the Chevy.

Ford seems to have fixed thier issues with the early trannies. Late in 2002 the went back to an early design in one main component and added another cooler for it. That solved it. But the 2000's and some 2001's had the problem. Mine was one of them. I too had problems with mine in my 2001. But now I sport all the 2002 redesign stuff. Remember mine going out at WC two years ago? that was the issue too.

Now Ford has this new Torqu Shift tranny. That is a very strong Tranny. Everyone feels its superior to anything out there. And so far its holding up really well. But like I said do not get the engine in 2003. Get the 2004.

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[magman007]

hum thanks for the insight phil, sorry for my wrong info there. its beena while since i did any research. Phil, did your tranny go out on you too?

if you remember, at iao, even though you werent there, you may have heard, we were hauling the trailer and came across a bridge and coasted right into butler PA, luckilly right next to the ford dealer! well, it wasnt so much of a pain, except for the fact that we were hauling the trailer, but boy were we pissed, 55000 miles on it, and the tranny went...
oh well..

i cant wait to see how this all works out.

[cphilip]

Mine popped at 29K. Main Sprag failed. I was not towing at the time but HAD towed the camper down to Orlando. So I was stuck till they fixed it. I did not have my temp monitor in there but do now. But I have no reason to believe it was related to overheating. It seems to have been that particular part that exploded. Reports are that about 10% of those in those years failed. Thats really a lot if you think about how many are out there! New design of a part in 2000. Which by the time they started figuring it out was late in 2001 and they changed back. And retrofitted it in all the ones that failed. But that was the old 100R tranny. They got a whole new redesigned one now. Came out in 2003 1/4 with the 6.0L engine. The Torque Shift. And so far its holding up really well. What year was yours?

Most of the reports I heard failed under warranty. And it cost ford a BUNCH of money. Only heard of a few that made it past warranty. And if those owners put up a stink they fixed them too. Not always willingly but at least they would split the cost

[PyRo]

My friend used a ford ford 6.9l diesel (I think that was the size) to plow. Every time he couldn't push a pile the dodge 360 would move it like nothing. One time he got stuck trying to push a pile, the dodge pushed the ford and the pile of snow at the same time like nothing.

[cphilip]

Well that doesn't tell me much. A lot of things change with gearing, rear end ratios and truck weight,length and all that sort of things. Fact is the latest road tests towing a load up hill show the Ford to be supierior at it. The Chevy being a tad quicker off the line and finished second at the top. But began losing before half way up the hill. In similar set ups, rear end wise and cab configurations and tranny's. I think its published on Car and Driver or something like that.

They all will Tow. And tow pretty darn well.

And the I6 Cummings Diesel in them Dodges is a Dam good motor. It's been around for a long time. Its easy to soup up too. Cheap to do as well. Being a inline 6 it is sluggish off the line. But builds very good torque. It really needs like 6 or more gears to really utilize it to its fullest. And they do not mate it up with that. In a big rig they would. The biggest thing holding Dodge back it the fact that they do not offer a True Full Crew Cab. Their four door is nothing more than a extended cab with correct swinging doors. I heard they were going to finaly introduce one though. And if you mate that with the HO Cummings I think they can compete now with the Ford and Chevy offerings. One thing for certain is that they all are getting better. Good time for Truck buyers. Lots of competion is making them all better.

[Mango]

Ford, hands down.

[Dubstar112]

We have an 89 dually(454 3speed + granny) with orignal exaust, tranny(alison), and everything in the engine other than necessary changes is original. I think that says somthing about GM.

This truck has been worked all of its life. Towing farm equipment, and horse trailers.

The only problem is, since the truck is made for towing, the gearing is slightly lower, the gas mileage on this thing is like 4gallons per mile I love it though... the duallies make good white smoke

[Dubstar112]

Originally posted by PyRo
My friend used a ford ford 6.9l diesel (I think that was the size) to plow. Every time he couldn't push a pile the dodge 360 would move it like nothing. One time he got stuck trying to push a pile, the dodge pushed the ford and the pile of snow at the same time like nothing.

There is so many variables that could cause that. Suspension, tires, plow setup, long v short wheel base, on and on...

[Miscue]

No religious threads. Closed. Haha, j/k.

[Mateo]

"And God saw the light, a Hemi motor, and it was good".
Genesis 1:4...to most Mopar fanatics.

[devildog]

Originally posted by Mateo
"And God saw the light, a Hemi motor, and it was good".
Genesis 1:4...to most Mopar fanatics.

AMEN!!!

[CasingBill]

Concerning the diesel aspect of this discussion.

Ford...no good.....they are still having lots of sofware problems. Such as the truck just shutting off while driving. Besides the new ones come with Hankook tires.(yuk)

GM...no good....the aforementioned Allison tranny's. Also they are having some head gasket issues. (Besides its an ugly truck)

Dodge....mmmmm..good. Still the most dependable diesel package on the market. Pull out a piston from a Cummins and compare to the others. The Cummins is at least 50% bigger. Bigger equals stronger. Classic inline 6 design. The same as the big trucks. If the smaller piston v8 style was so great all the big truck/engine manufacturers would switch.(awesome truck)

Guess which one I own?????