Ford Vs Gm Vs Mopar

[Butterfingers]

Originally posted by cphilip
Butter you got that wrong. that guy didn't use anything Dodge at all. He used a commercial grade I6 Cummins. Ford even uses them, just not in the F350. The Ford F650 and above have a Cummins option in them. There are three engine options in that size truck. Powerstroke, Cummins and Detroit. All commercial grade engines. Not Dodge spec engines. But then again they have split axles too so they can use them more effently. And the Commercial engine is a totaly different beast than is purchased by Dodge to put into Dodge pickup trucks. Very different. About all they share is a block.

OOPS! thanks for the clarifications The Message board I pulled that off of lead me to beleive that it was in fact a Dodge/Cummins...

[Zumina]

Escalade.

[cphilip]

yea right... My brothers sisters mechanic told me... I didn't see any... I don't know any.... (fact is you never owned enough trucks to know anything so live and learn a little)

There are tons of Ford fleet work trucks out there. More than Dodge. Go do some research and look at the numbers! Ford outsells em all. Tons of Chevy ones too. You need to broaden your search criteria cause it's terribly lacking Pyro.




Magman. I feel for ya. Yea those were the right year for it. And Ford never owned up to it. Because they never had too. You had to know the right way to argue it to get the tranny done. The TSB's and such. Woulda got you something. Probably half the cost of rebuild at least. I know a few that did. Problem was you were on the road and thats not easily done then. If your at your dealer its way easier. You could have called your dealer and he probably would have done it for you anyway. If you were a regular customer and all. Mine was covered under warranty. But my dealer kicked in the use of a rental pickup and some expense money on top of that. I came out spending nothing even with staying the extra week to fix it. Good thing is they did indeed replace it with the later design by that time. The parts were no longer used by the time you had yours fail and rebuilt. It woulda been fine after that. Many of them go 200 300 K plus. There is a 99 that has over a million miles on it with original tranny. There are examples like that of all the manufacturers Diesels.

But heck they all do this game stuff. GM still will not own up to its Alisson mistakes nor its Duramax problems. Dodge has never acknowledged any of thier tranny problems or oil leak problems. They fix em and hope they last the warranty period. All of them do it. But when the issue stays below a percentage they can get away with that. No one makes em recall them if the numbers are say below 10%. They can do TSB's and then customer fixes on them and deny it as long as it stays low.

But! The one thing is they do indeed have to fix the Design eventually! Because it costs them money if enough of them go out before the warranty does! This is what people call new design growing pains. It affects thier bottom line eventualy so they do indeed rethink it and design it out. But the few that last long enough are just screwed. All the darn Major auto companies do it. They balance thier losses and gains and see. But when it hits thier wallet they look for a fix and implement it. So thats good. The internet has really made it even harder for them to hide it. Because we all get together on Diesel truck sites and we share all this. So we know what all of them are doing and reporting. So we go in to our dealers more aware and armed with TSB's and stuff. The site I have been a member of for years has all sorts of very skilled people there and even some dealers that help us. We got Chevy and Dodge guys there too. Its like the largest Diesel truck site on the web. I have written several FAQ's and installs on there that I still get Emails on. Good stuff this internet. It makes big companies very afraid! They hate us!

[cphilip]

Originally posted by Butterfingers


OOPS! thanks for the clarifications The Message board I pulled that off of lead me to beleive that it was in fact a Dodge/Cummins...

No that cool. It is a neat project too. But I am fairly certain its the one I have seen close ups of the install. The guy that did that is over at the Truck Site I am a member of. Its the full big one though. And its freakin awesome. It is similar in some respects to the one Dodge buys. The block anyway. But it like has a oil pan of like 20 quarts and a set of injectors like no other Dodge ever seen!

heck I could not really see the thing up close in your clip. But I was fairly certain its the same guy that is over at FD.com. But then again I am certain someone else has done it. And possibly someone has pulled a dodge edition out and stuffed it in a ford. There is a guy has a Powerstroke in his Dodge even!

[mcveighr]

I probably wouldnt argue with cphillip on this one pyro, he seems to know what he's talking about and had plenty of time to argue(notice almost six posts in a row?).

[PyRo]

Well kind of actually
My friends father is a mechanic, and good one. No i'm not just baseing this on the fact that I know him, ive heard from other people in the buisness that he is probably one of the better mechaics around here, so no it isn't the guy who worked at sears changing oil. Aside from that my boss when I worked pumping gas agreed that most fords were inferior. There were always more fords in there than anything else, as far as trucks go. 2 more mechanics that I know also think ford sucks. They will fight all day over Gm and Mopar, but forget ford. I think they know what they're talking about.
How many non-ford trucks have you owned Cphilp?

[cphilip]

Well you leave yourself open again don't you? You assume things too much kiddo. I have owned two Chevy trucks and one Dodge. The dodge was a big one though. Great truck. A farm truck gasser. A beast of a truck. The Chevies were both half tons. Good trucks they were. I have owned more Fords though. I prefer them in the ends slightly. And know them better than anything else too which is part of the reason I prefer them. I know em all to have issues. But I know how to deal with the Ford ones easier is all. Because I have sort of always had one most of the time

To date I have owned 7 Ford Trucks, Two Chevies and One Dodge. Cars? I have owned four Fords and Two Chevies. Also three Nissans. I prefer the Nissan cars myself. Heck I might even like thier trucks since they now have a big one. But I am not into little trucks so until lately there was nothing to offer there. And still nothing as big as I need right now.

Fords suck huh? Well then most of the people in the world are wrong then. Cause they been the best selling truck for a Loooooonnnnng time.

[PyRo]

Well maybie they're all like the landscaper I know, and really don't like ford but got one anyway because the GM and dodge dealers didn't have any diesel 5spds in stock, and ford did

[CasingBill]

Originally posted by cphilip
yea right... My brothers sisters mechanic told me.

Was that a line from Ferris Buellers Day Off??

[jobo_18]

Originally posted by devildog
well, my opinion is based because i only like muscle cars, so i easily voted for mopar. no motor to date can touch the ORIGINAL 426 hemi, the new 350 hemi dodge came out with is crap, but the 426 is the god of motors. whether it be a plymouth duster, or a dodge charger, mopar owns.

p.s.

i drive a 71 duster with a 426 hemi roaring under the hood, ill try to get some pics when i get out of this place im in. still needs some work though.

go pick up the march 04 issue of popular hot rodding magazine they tested the new 5.7l Hemi and it's a danm fine engine, it has enormous ptoential and "... even in today's world, the hemi [2003 5.7l] a year after it's induction, has got more going for it as a hot rod motor than perhaps the small-block Chevydid in 1956." ( PHR page 42). it also goes on to say that the heads hve "more than enough flow potential to clear the 600-hp barrier and probably do it (relatively speaking)with ease." (PHR page 42)

I am a mopar fan myself and perhaps one day when i am dnonw w/ college and i am in a full time job (i am 21) i want a lemon twist yellow 1970 hemi cuda (doesn't have to be origional) or a hemi challengar.

[cphilip]

Anytime someone starts arguing with the "EVERYONE he knows" and "EVERYONE says this or that" .... I know he lying and now and grasping at straws. Or well... maybe he is just ignorant? Which one is it?

Pyro you know the only reason you are spouting crap is your still sore about your dam post count getting reset. You follow me around like a little dog to argue about stuff you really don't know anything about. And then, the incredible things is you PM me saying you have been good and begging for your post count back! Or you even get someone else to do it for you! It's totaly sad. Very pathetic...

[jobo_18]

Originally posted by devildog
well, my opinion is based because i only like muscle cars, so i easily voted for mopar. no motor to date can touch the ORIGINAL 426 hemi, the new 350 hemi dodge came out with is crap, but the 426 is the god of motors. whether it be a plymouth duster, or a dodge charger, mopar owns.

p.s.

i drive a 71 duster with a 426 hemi roaring under the hood, ill try to get some pics when i get out of this place im in. still needs some work though.

go pick up the march 04 issue of popular hot rodding magazine they tested the new 5.7l Hemi and it's a danm fine engine, it has enormous ptoential and "... even in today's world, the hemi [2003 5.7l] a year after it's induction, has got more going for it as a hot rod motor than perhaps the small-block Chevydid in 1956." ( PHR page 42). it also goes on to say that the heads hve "more than enough flow potential to clear the 600-hp barrier and probably do it (relatively speaking)with ease." (PHR page 42)

I am a mopar fan myself and perhaps one day when i am dnonw w/ college and i am in a full time job (i am 21) i want a lemon twist yellow 1970 hemi cuda (doesn't have to be origional) or a hemi challengar.

[magman007]

holy crap, pyro cool your jets, this is starting to seem like too ballers arguing over whether the cocker or the mag is better! it doesnt really matter!

[PyRo]

Originally posted by cphilip
Anytime someone starts arguing with the "EVERYONE he knows" and "EVERYONE says this or that" .... I know he lying and now and grasping at straws. Or well... maybe he is just ignorant? Which one is it?

Pyro you know the only reason you are spouting crap is your still sore about your dam post count getting reset. You follow me around like a little dog to argue about stuff you really don't know anything about. And then, the incredible things is you PM me saying you have been good and begging for your post count back! Or you even get someone else to do it for you! It's totaly sad. Very pathetic...

Me cool my jets? For a moderator Cphilip is a real jerk. I don't think ive ever said anything that mean on the boards, maybie you should give yourself a 3 day?

Please tell me where I lied?

Me spouting crap because I want my count back? Thats a load of bull. I'm not happy my post count was reset, I do want it back, but i'm not angry at you over it.
I have been good, I stopped post whoreing, and I have NEVER made a post specifically to get at you, and if I have it had nothing at all to do with my post count. Why don't you go cry about it if I don't agree with you on somthing.

Another thing, I never asked anyone to PM you about my post count, thats another lie.

I think your the pathetic one, going on a little tangent when I havn't done anything.

Oh almost forgot

[Mango]