we are F--ed

[Brak]

http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/

im not saying if i believe it or not, although its pretty convincing and makes good sense; but its incredibly cycnical and i find it hard to believe its going to be THAT bad. its not really phasing me too much.



if you need something to put your mind at ease, check this out: http://www.backwoodshome.com/article...veira85lw.html
just some info about the supervolcano thats 40,000 years overdue to erupt and cause another ice age.


in all honest, i think all this 'end of the world is closer than you think' stuff is a load of crap, and is not gonna be as bad as some people think. weve come this far and we will keep going (until aliens invade). i might be wrong, but as far as im concerned its all good.

[Wierd-Guy]

ditto

I like being aware of things that we can fix but if I'm going to die tommarrow I really don't care to know about it.

[dansim]

if your gonna go around the cuss filter at least use the correct amount of letters

[Brak]

Originally posted by dansim
if your gonna go around the cuss filter at least use the correct amount of letters

im not avoiding the curse filter. its an expression. ever been around someone who doesnt like swearing so you just said "eff" you? "F-ed" is the same type of expression. nice job

[dansim]

nah i dont really care if people around me dont like swearing, unless im around older people or young kids....whata you mean good job?

[Albinonewt]

Don't sweat the oil thing too much.


There is plenty of oil. The only problem is the we're using up the cheapest oil to drill for. Once that's all gone we'll get the next cheapest oil, which will steadily, but slowly, increase prices. Once prices rise supplies will look for a cheaper way to provide energy and the next alternative will be found, which will relax the oil price somewhat while it is slowly phased out.

Don't sweat it. It's cylical and this is how it's supposed to work.

[MayAMonkeyBeYourPinata]

Actually the reason we are all effed, is because the Mayans predicted the end of the world

would be December 13 or so 2012

[p8ntball1016]

Thats just when the Mayan calendar ended.

[RRfireblade]

Poppycock.

Pure nonsence.

Besides that,the end of the world is near.

Near,however is a relative term.

Near,as in our lifetime? Probably not.

Near,as in the next few hundred years? Quite possibly.

Near,as in the next 1000 years? Almost definately.

Relative to the Age of the Earth,relative to the percentage of time life has existed in the planet,relative to the typical time between global impacts or other Planet altering events throughout the history of Earth......it's amazing it's not over already.

Seriously.

[spantol]

It's best to take that site--and any doomsday scenario sites, for that matter--with a grain of salt. It describes the worst possible aftermath of peak oil, not necessarily the most likely.

The concept of peak pil, though, is quite real and well-documented (Google the term for more information than you could possibly want). It's nothing I'd lose sleep over, though. Human ingenuity being what it is, I'm sure we'll figure something out in time.

[impostal22]

Originally posted by RRfireblade

Near,as in the next few hundred years? Quite possibly.

Near,as in the next 1000 years? Almost definately.

Relative to the Age of the Earth,relative to the percentage of time life has existed in the planet,relative to the typical time between global impacts or other Planet altering events throughout the history of Earth......it's amazing it's not over already.

Seriously.

and then we look at all the other planets that are still around, and have been just as long as earth

next thousand years? don't flatter yourself. there's no way to predict that, and to say it'll be in the next thousand years is just dumb, considering everything you just mentioned. earth has been around 12 or so billion years, while the universe has been around like 6 billion more. if anything, it'll end in a few hundred thousand or a few million years from now, assuming that humans have zero impact.

there is, however, substantial evidence that if global warming continues, it will cause the next ice age. why? because if the polar caps melt (as they do every few millenia), the underwater ocean currents will stop flowing. these currents are the only thing keeping the water from freezing. ocean freezes...we're in trouble .

back to studying for midterms..

[logamus]

Originally posted by impostal22
there is, however, substantial evidence that if global warming continues, it will cause the next ice age. why? because if the polar caps melt (as they do every few millenia), the underwater ocean currents will stop flowing. these currents are the only thing keeping the water from freezing. ocean freezes...we're in trouble .

back to studying for midterms..

if its warm enough to melt the polar caps wouldnt it stand to reason that it would be warm enough to keep the oceans from freezing as well?

[Trigger_Happy]

There is no substantial data to show that global warming is an issue. The best measurements we've been able to take show that earth's "composite temperature" hasn't varied by more than 2 degrees C in the last hundred years or so, and that varience is not all increasing temperature, the chart looks more like "/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/" than anything.

Sure, we might all burn, freeze, or drown. Anything's possible. In reality, though, good arguments have shown that the root of "global warming" lies in greedy scientists looking for research grants. That's right, feed the media a doomsday story and you win yourself a cushy job.

And as far as CFC's destroying the ozone layer; total myth. The CFC's we produce are a worthlessly small percentage compared to the amount of CFC's that occur naturally. Natural wind patterns cause updrafts near the south pole. That wind caries CFC's (mostly naturally occurring) with it and so the updraft causes a hole in the ozone layer over the south pole. How many of your good friends live near the south pole? The truth is that only about 400 artic people are at risk because of the hole. Meanwhile refrigeration, firefighting, and surgical sterilization takes a hit because we aren't allowed to produce CFC's to do the job. You can thank more greedy researchers for this hoax as well.

All the evidence has a grain of truth, but it's all really obscured to ensure more and more multi-million dollar research grants.

P.S. Please don't attempt to point out flaws in all this by pointing to a quote or figure originating from a well paid, and corrupt, scientist.

[Barfly]

Originally posted by Albinonewt
Don't sweat the oil thing too much.


There is plenty of oil. The only problem is the we're using up the cheapest oil to drill for. Once that's all gone we'll get the next cheapest oil, which will steadily, but slowly, increase prices. Once prices rise supplies will look for a cheaper way to provide energy and the next alternative will be found, which will relax the oil price somewhat while it is slowly phased out.

Don't sweat it. It's cylical and this is how it's supposed to work.

Albinonewt smart smart smart, smart smart smart smart smaaaarrt

Mathew David Dumb d-dumb

[Tyger]

We can always worry about it a lot. I mean, we can dig shelters, horde oil and water and nuclear crackers, and wait out the hellstorm that is sure to follow?

Wait, I wonder... can I get a good deal on a slightly used Y2K Shelter?

-Tyger